Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

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Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby goosey » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:08 pm

everything else in ny, outside of ccn???

typical conditions (top 40%, etc)

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby blerg » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:13 pm

top 40 of section or of class?

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby goosey » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:18 pm

blerg wrote:top 40 of section or of class?


of class

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby champ33 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:49 pm

I have a significant scholarship to Brooklyn too, not full... but puts it at the same tuition as Rutgers-Newark, so I'm trying to decide between the two and will watch this thread.

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby goosey » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:43 am

Shameless bump

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby badfish » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:13 am

No. I wouldn't take any scholarship at a lower tiered school if keeping that scholarship means I would need to stay in the top whatever % of my class. Plainly, you have no idea how well you will do during your 1L and first semester grades are more of a crapshoot than anything b/c people don't really have the hang of it yet. You can assume that you're just that much smarter than the rest of your classmates, but I think that would be a mistake.

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby wanttoleavemyjob » Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:00 pm

I think I am going to take the basically full scholly BLS offered me over a smaller amount at Cardozo, in-state plus scholly at Rutgers, an almost free ride at Seton Hall and a free ride at St. Johns...

That said, it depends on your goals. If you want big law- go to the best school you get in to. If you want to limit your debt- well then, free is good.

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby bceagles182 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:03 pm

Did you get money at Cardozo or Fordham?

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby goosey » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:14 pm

Nope, fordham is an odd situation. I was given a rough idea of what I would be able to get from them and it was half tuition. Fordham is where my heart is. I realllllyyy wish I cud go to fordham but the difference is graduating with 0 debt verses graduating with 80k in debt :(

I should also note I'm waitlisted at fordham--my situation is a bit unique in that I know what kind of aid I would get if admitted..but if I'm going to be happy with brooklyn I need to forget fordham is a possibility

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby Always Credited » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:31 pm

I would never attend Brooklyn ever. Having zero debt won't help you much when you can't get a job - you'll be in the same place you are now...minus three years of your life.

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby goosey » Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:29 am

Always Credited wrote:I would never attend Brooklyn ever. Having zero debt won't help you much when you can't get a job - you'll be in the same place you are now...minus three years of your life.


Brooklyn grads don't get *any* jobs or brooklyn grads don't get biglaw?

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby Bline001 » Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:04 pm

Always Credited wrote:I would never attend Brooklyn ever. Having zero debt won't help you much when you can't get a job - you'll be in the same place you are now...minus three years of your life.


Don't ever listen to advice like this. First off a J.D. is almost never useless. Even if you graduate no where near the top the J.D. can be a valuable degree in a plethora of fields.

Now for Brooklyn Law specifically, you will have to perform very well if you would like to practice in BigLaw. The school placed roughly 20% of it's graduates in NLJ250 firms, although I would shoot for top 15% or higher + a journal or other honor society for the top paying jobs.

If you are not interested in BigLaw Brooklyn places very well in public interest positions as their clinics are very well respected. Just my two cents so take it for what it is worth.

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby goosey » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:33 pm

Bline001 wrote:
Always Credited wrote:I would never attend Brooklyn ever. Having zero debt won't help you much when you can't get a job - you'll be in the same place you are now...minus three years of your life.


Don't ever listen to advice like this. First off a J.D. is almost never useless. Even if you graduate no where near the top the J.D. can be a valuable degree in a plethora of fields.

Now for Brooklyn Law specifically, you will have to perform very well if you would like to practice in BigLaw. The school placed roughly 20% of it's graduates in NLJ250 firms, although I would shoot for top 15% or higher + a journal or other honor society for the top paying jobs.

If you are not interested in BigLaw Brooklyn places very well in public interest positions as their clinics are very well respected. Just my two cents so take it for what it is worth.

Thanks. Yeah I don't ever take blanket statements like the above very seriously. If nobody was getting a job out of brooklyn, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't still be around. It may be cut-throat..it may not be easy to get that 160k job, but then those aren't the only jobs out there.

Are there any jobs in between the 160k biglaw jobs and the 40k pi jobs though? And how does brooklyn fare with those?

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby erniesto » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:48 pm

goosey wrote:
Bline001 wrote:
Always Credited wrote:I would never attend Brooklyn ever. Having zero debt won't help you much when you can't get a job - you'll be in the same place you are now...minus three years of your life.


Don't ever listen to advice like this. First off a J.D. is almost never useless. Even if you graduate no where near the top the J.D. can be a valuable degree in a plethora of fields.

Now for Brooklyn Law specifically, you will have to perform very well if you would like to practice in BigLaw. The school placed roughly 20% of it's graduates in NLJ250 firms, although I would shoot for top 15% or higher + a journal or other honor society for the top paying jobs.

If you are not interested in BigLaw Brooklyn places very well in public interest positions as their clinics are very well respected. Just my two cents so take it for what it is worth.

Thanks. Yeah I don't ever take blanket statements like the above very seriously. If nobody was getting a job out of brooklyn, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't still be around. It may be cut-throat..it may not be easy to get that 160k job, but then those aren't the only jobs out there.

Are there any jobs in between the 160k biglaw jobs and the 40k pi jobs though? And how does brooklyn fare with those?


If you're not in the top 40% of your class after year one, you're pretty f-ed anyways and life is going to become much harder. I'd imagine this holds true for Fordturkey as well. Would anyone be surprised if Fordham got cut down a notch in this past OCI?

At least at Brooklyn you didn't pay 45k in tuition and can get away free and clear to start working your way up a different industry. My personal opinion is that schools which are in the middle, like Ford*ham (30% NLJ), are the law school equivilant of sirens, luring naive green-eyed students into massive debt in a turbulent economy.

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Re: Would You Pick Full Ride at Brooklyn Over..

Postby firebreathingliberal » Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:00 pm

Hard to argue with a free education...




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