Cornell vs. Georgetown

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Cornell vs. Georgetown

Postby lehtsgostars » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:27 am

Having to decide between Cornell versus Georgetown, although I haven't heard from Northwestern yet, even though my application has been complete since Dec. 3. Have also been waitlisted at Penn, Duke, and Michigan. Loved my visit to Georgetown.

I have no desire to work in NYC, and probably not in the Northeast in general.
I am concerned about Ithaca's remoteness, and fear that "cabin fever" may be a problem.
At the same time, I'm concerned about Georgetown's sheer size and the potential for getting lost in the numbers.
Note that if I am accepted at Northwestern, I will go there, so this conundrum wouldn't be an issue, then.

Which school has the better national reputation, and which will provide me with the most preparation for a future law career?
Of the three schools I have been waitlisted at, which one is worth pursuing more? (my preference, in order, is Michigan, Duke, and Penn (mainly because I don't want to live in Philadelphia for 3 years))

Thanks for your help

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Re: Cornell vs. Georgetown

Postby fortissimo » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:22 am

What type of job do you want to pursue? Georgetown has a much better LRAP, but I've also heard that its OCI was by far the worst out of the top 14 because of its large size and DC-focus. (And I believe its LRAP is very restricted to certain types of jobs.)

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Re: Cornell vs. Georgetown

Postby lehtsgostars » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:16 am

I'm not that interested in pursuing a career in public interest law. I'm more interested in going the private route.

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Re: Cornell vs. Georgetown

Postby acdisagod » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:23 am

I'm making the same decision (Except working in NY is attractive to me).

Right now I'm leaning a little toward Georgetown because I'm more interested in government/public interest than biglaw.
Also, while Cornell has historically lead in biglaw placement Georgetown did just as well last year. Do people think that's a short term aberration due to the economy?

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Re: Cornell vs. Georgetown

Postby 4for44 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:35 am

IMO, DC is a great city to live and study in. If DC law sounds appealing go to GeorgeTTTown, and work your ass off to stand out, if you definitely dont want to work in DC, Cornell seems to have better NATIONAL reach based on representation in their OCI.

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Re: Cornell vs. Georgetown

Postby nealric » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:33 am

but I've also heard that its OCI was by far the worst out of the top 14 because of its large size and DC-focus


Tell that to Penn and Cornell, which we beat in biglaw placement for the most recent available year.

Cornell seems to have better NATIONAL reach based on representation in their OCI.


Umm... No. Check the NALP directory.

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Re: Cornell vs. Georgetown

Postby elmagic » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:27 am

nealric wrote:
but I've also heard that its OCI was by far the worst out of the top 14 because of its large size and DC-focus


Tell that to Penn and Cornell, which we beat in biglaw placement for the most recent available year.


I am not sure which data you are referring to, but the most recent NLJ250 data has Penn placing more than half of its class into these firms. Although calling every firm on the NLJ250 "Biglaw" might be a stretch.

And if you look at the data compiled here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=108528&hilit=top+placing+2009
1. Stanford - 77.1%
2. Yale - 72.1%
3. Harvard - 65.7%
4. Virginia - 65.2%
5. Michigan - 64.9%
6. Columbia - 64.0%
7. Chicago - 63.1%
8. Northwestern - 62.7%
9. Penn - 61.7%
10. Duke - 61.5%
11. Berkeley - 58.1%
12. NYU - 57.4%
13. Vanderbilt - 55.0%
14. Cornell - 52.4%
15. Georgetown - 48.4%
16. Texas - 47.5%
17. USC - 47.2%
18. UCLA - 41.9%
19. Boston College - 38.0%
20. Notre Dame - 37.8%

This data takes into account federal clerkships, which gives a bit more context, and also shows that Georgetown not only placed worse than Cornell and Penn but also Vanderbilt.

I still think OP should go to Georgetown given his/her lack of interest in Cornell's primary market.

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Re: Cornell vs. Georgetown

Postby legalease9 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:56 am

Go Georgetown unless cornell gives $$.

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Re: Cornell vs. Georgetown

Postby nealric » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:19 pm

This data takes into account federal clerkships, which gives a bit more context, and also shows that Georgetown not only placed worse than Cornell and Penn but also Vanderbilt.


Shortchanges GULC for not taking fed government hiring into account.

But the point I was contesting was OCI. GULC really does have a very extensive and national OCI.




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