Cornell or Cardozo for free

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Cardozo vs. Cornell

Cardozo w/ guaranteed 3yr full ride
35
30%
Cornell at Sticker
80
70%
 
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Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby dgb87 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:00 pm

Prefer to live in the city, but not sure what to do still. Thoughts?

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby kommatas » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:04 pm

Cornell. If it were me, there would be no question. The difference in opportunities and education between the two are too great for financial concerns. Plus graduating from Cornell gives you a better opportunity to land a higher earning job right off the bat and thereby washing the debt you would pile up during your attendance.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby goingtolawschool » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:48 pm

Unless you're planning on being poor after law school, go to Cornell.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby TTH » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:14 am

I'm shocked ten people voted for 'dozo.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby dudester » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:33 am

TipTravHoot wrote:I'm shocked ten people voted for 'dozo.


Bozos...

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby 270910 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:36 am

Is it worth ~$200,000 to increase your chances of ever landing a big firm job or prestigious PI/Gov work by roughly an order of magnitude?

If yes, Cornell.

If no, Cardozo.

All depends on your goals, but if they are lofty and unspecific, you would be a fool to turn down Cornell - so that was my vote in the poll.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby wakefield » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:50 am

goingtolawschool wrote:Unless you're planning on being poor after law school, go to Cornell.


Are you kidding? Cornell's tuition is ridiculous.

OP, go to Cornell if you want biglaw/prestigious PI work, and if you're comfortable with IBR and Cornell's LRAP. If not, take the free ride.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby Blindmelon » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:58 am

Cornell.... 'Dozo is Tee-Ball and Cornell is the major leagues.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby LegalGENius » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:43 pm

Whoaaaaa, I visited Cardozo and almost ran out! Cornell all the way! What's a little bit :wink: of debt for a big-time pay day post-grad (eventually!)

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby 270910 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:46 pm

LegalGENius wrote:{obnoxious color tag}Whoaaaaa, I visited Cardozo and almost ran out! Cornell all the way! What's a little bit :wink: of debt for a big-time pay day post-grad (eventually!){/color}


Mother of God. This post and poster really combines it all. What hath TLS wrought?

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby LegalGENius » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:53 pm

disco_barred wrote:
LegalGENius wrote:{obnoxious color tag}Whoaaaaa, I visited Cardozo and almost ran out! Cornell all the way! What's a little bit :wink: of debt for a big-time pay day post-grad (eventually!){/color}


Mother of God. This post and poster really combines it all. What hath TLS wrought?


Okay, so I should just go through life "mad at the world" like you? No thanks!

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby hannah87 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:56 pm

i'd take cardozo free ride over cornell because i would just be totally unwilling to live in ithaca for 3 years. i didn't apply to cornell for precisely that reason. OP did apply, so i guess it's not as bad an option for him/her. so i guess i'll vote cornell.

OP- is Fordham in the mix?

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby Blindmelon » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:18 pm

hannah87 wrote:i'd take cardozo free ride over cornell because i would just be totally unwilling to live in ithaca for 3 years. i didn't apply to cornell for precisely that reason. OP did apply, so i guess it's not as bad an option for him/her. so i guess i'll vote cornell.

OP- is Fordham in the mix?


3 years for a lifetime of better opportunity? uh.... thats not rational. I can understand being adverse to paying sticker, but severely diminishing your earning potential because 3 years out of your entire life to live in a city where you will vacate during the summer and while you're there not have much free time anyway is too much of a price is silly.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby hannah87 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:33 pm

Blindmelon wrote:
hannah87 wrote:i'd take cardozo free ride over cornell because i would just be totally unwilling to live in ithaca for 3 years. i didn't apply to cornell for precisely that reason. OP did apply, so i guess it's not as bad an option for him/her. so i guess i'll vote cornell.

OP- is Fordham in the mix?


3 years for a lifetime of better opportunity? uh.... thats not rational. I can understand being adverse to paying sticker, but severely diminishing your earning potential because 3 years out of your entire life to live in a city where you will vacate during the summer and while you're there not have much free time anyway is too much of a price is silly.


not really. also, i'm married, which complicates things to the nth degree. but i still wouldn't have applied there if i were single. you didn't rule out applications to schools you're just...not interested in?

also, i'm guessing you're not from nyc?

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby Renzo » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:57 pm

Blindmelon wrote:...to live in a city where you will vacate during the summer and while you're there not have much free time anyway is too much of a price is silly.


[quote="hannah87"

also, i'm guessing you're not from nyc?[/quote]

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby hannah87 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:04 pm

Renzo wrote:
Blindmelon wrote:...to live in a city where you will vacate during the summer and while you're there not have much free time anyway is too much of a price is silly.


[quote="hannah87"

also, i'm guessing you're not from nyc?
[/quote]

i don't get it. i'm still not interested in spending 9 months a year in ithaca. just my opinion!

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby Renzo » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:20 pm

hannah87 wrote:i don't get it. i'm still not interested in spending 9 months a year in ithaca. just my opinion!

I effed up my quotes; I was trying to agree with you. I'd go to Cornell, personally, but Ithaca sucks and Blindmelon's not from NYC.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby hannah87 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:22 pm

Renzo wrote:
hannah87 wrote:i don't get it. i'm still not interested in spending 9 months a year in ithaca. just my opinion!

I effed up my quotes; I was trying to agree with you. I'd go to Cornell, personally, but Ithaca sucks and Blindmelon's not from NYC.


:) HA ok i get it now! thanks for clearing it up, sir.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby Blindmelon » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:49 pm

Renzo wrote:
hannah87 wrote:i don't get it. i'm still not interested in spending 9 months a year in ithaca. just my opinion!

I effed up my quotes; I was trying to agree with you. I'd go to Cornell, personally, but Ithaca sucks and Blindmelon's not from NYC.


Huh? I grew up in NYC, thats exactly why I say Cornell. Cornell has a great name in NYC, Dozo really doesn't. NY is a hard market to succeed in.... I'm at BU so if I wanted to, I could go back to NYC.

Dozo is at best the 20 something-ish best school for NYC. Thats not exactly a good place to be in. All the T14 and most of the T30 would beat it in its own home market.

There has to be an inbetween - why not Fordham?

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby goosey » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:04 am

I'd go with cardozo.

1, nobody knows where the economy will be 3 years from now--there are grads from good schools without jobs--not sure why people believe that going to cornell will be a ticket to great employment 3 yrs from now. truth is, nobody knows.

2, you'll be in the city. I am sure it doesnt completely close the gap, but what you lose in rank you can certainly try to make up with networking.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby blsingindisguise » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:09 am

goosey wrote:I'd go with cardozo.

1, nobody knows where the economy will be 3 years from now--there are grads from good schools without jobs--not sure why people believe that going to cornell will be a ticket to great employment 3 yrs from now. truth is, nobody knows.

2, you'll be in the city. I am sure it doesnt completely close the gap, but what you lose in rank you can certainly try to make up with networking.


#1: Yes, no one knows what the economy will be like in three years. What we do know, however, is that it will continue to be better for Cornell grads than for Cardozo grads, relatively.

#2: This is virtually meaningless.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby Jules Winnfield » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:14 am

If you're a prestige whore (understandable in this scenario), go to Cornell.

If you're debt averse (understandable in any scenario), go to Cardozo.

Both are good schools and provide access to the New York market, albeit in respectively varying degrees.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby Integrity » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:18 am

Cornell

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby lawschooliseasy » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:24 am

Blindmelon wrote:
Renzo wrote:
hannah87 wrote:i don't get it. i'm still not interested in spending 9 months a year in ithaca. just my opinion!

I effed up my quotes; I was trying to agree with you. I'd go to Cornell, personally, but Ithaca sucks and Blindmelon's not from NYC.


Huh? I grew up in NYC, thats exactly why I say Cornell. Cornell has a great name in NYC, Dozo really doesn't. NY is a hard market to succeed in.... I'm at BU so if I wanted to, I could go back to NYC.

Dozo is at best the 20 something-ish best school for NYC. Thats not exactly a good place to be in. All the T14 and most of the T30 would beat it in its own home market.

There has to be an inbetween - why not Fordham?


Because Fordham gives out very, very little in merit aid. The cost of attendance at Fordham would probably be comparable, if not higher, than COA at Cornell.

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Re: Cornell or Cardozo for free

Postby motiontodismiss » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:24 am

Cardozo's like right up the street from NYU. From the outside their building looks pretty nice....




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