Any Baylor Students out there??

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Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby kew » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:10 am

I like a lot of others on TLS received a full tuition offer from Baylor, but I am very apprehensive after hearing about how competitive the students are and do worry about job prospects. I have been to Waco twice and really don't mind it so that's not an issue. I like Texas and could see myself living there for awhile after law school anyway.

When I visited it seemed like everyone I talked to went there because they were from texas, their parents were baylor grads, or to be close to a significant other. No one I found went just because they wanted to be at Baylor it seemed. I would greatly appreciate any insight from any Baylor Law students. I am also considering Wake Forest, Wisconsin, and U Houston. I like these three better but I have a hard time turning down the money, even though I don't have the best feeling about Baylor. Thanks for any help!!!

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby kew » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:22 pm

No one??? Thats kind of what I was worried about... I really would LOVE any help!

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby Bustang » Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:33 pm

I've talked to 10+ baylor law students. All of them hate it and wish they did something else.

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby kalvano » Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:11 pm

I'd take Wake out of all those choices.

Don't go Baylor. I really loved Wake when I visited, and with some work you can get a job in Texas with a Wake degree.
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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby kew » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:53 am

Thanks, I appreciate the responses! Wake is slowly moving to the top of the list, although i'm still waiting on Colorado.

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Postby HBK » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:41 am

I have also heard that Baylor sucks. They're decently regarded if you are interested in prosecution or defense, but not much else. The Baylor grads I know are all in those areas.

They told me that Baylor makes itself harder than it really needs to be. And although you'd think all that hard work (awful busy work) would pay off in big bucks, you'd be mistaken. Biglaw seems to avoid Baylor like the plague. Add into that that Baylor (unlike SMU and Houston) doesn't have a home market for jobs, and the writing's on the wall.

/although full scholly is hard to turn down. What are your numbers, if you don't mind me asking?

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby kew » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:45 am

Ya, I have heard a lot of that too. Numbers are 163, 3.66

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby Esc » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:36 am

Baylor is a black hole.

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby isaiah6v8 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:27 pm

I can't speak to this as a BU Law student, but I can give you a picture from BU law students and grads that I know. I went to undergrad there, so I can say that Waco is not bad at all. it isn't a thriving metropolis, but it isn't connected to David Koresh either. (they just had to set up their cameras somewhere, Bush's ranch is closer to the compound than Waco is.) So as for the law school, this is what I have heard, they make it unbelievably hard, the third year sucks, it will prepare you to be a great litigator though. If you want to be a litigator, then Baylor may be the place for you, if not, then you are going to do a lot of unnecessary work. The facilities are unmatched. As for jobs, you will have a great Baylor network, BU has a good alumni connection and there are many firms out there that are very Baylor friendly. I have never met an unemployed Baylor lawyer. Basically, it depends on what you want to do with your JD, litigation, Baylor would be a good choice, anything else, especially public sector (though less-so since you have a good scholarship) then other places, namely UH would serve you well.

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby da87 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:42 pm

I am a Baylor undergrad...might go to Baylor Law. However, I have know multiple people who go there and have talked to many graduates of Baylor Law.

So, a lot of the people I have talked to absolutely love it. They love the people, professors, facilities, and the fact that it is small. Yes, it is challenging, but it makes them better lawyers in the long run.

Other people have said that the competitiveness gets somewhat exhausting, while others thrive on it.

As far as grads go and job placement, most of the Baylor Law grads I know ended up in Dallas. They have some very good connections with Dallas firms. One of them, who works in Dallas, said that he and a University of Texas Law grad were hired at a firm. The first week he was doing really well and felt completely prepared for everything, while the UT Law grad kept having to ask him about things and what to do because she had no idea what she was doing. So all that to say, Baylor prepares you very well, which is why it is so tough.

This isn't my experience, just what I have heard from people who are attending and have graduated from Baylor Law. Take it for what it's worth.

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby Bustang » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:52 am

da87 wrote:I am a Baylor undergrad...might go to Baylor Law. However, I have know multiple people who go there and have talked to many graduates of Baylor Law.

So, a lot of the people I have talked to absolutely love it. They love the people, professors, facilities, and the fact that it is small. Yes, it is challenging, but it makes them better lawyers in the long run.

Other people have said that the competitiveness gets somewhat exhausting, while others thrive on it.

As far as grads go and job placement, most of the Baylor Law grads I know ended up in Dallas. They have some very good connections with Dallas firms. One of them, who works in Dallas, said that he and a University of Texas Law grad were hired at a firm. The first week he was doing really well and felt completely prepared for everything, while the UT Law grad kept having to ask him about things and what to do because she had no idea what she was doing. So all that to say, Baylor prepares you very well, which is why it is so tough.

This isn't my experience, just what I have heard from people who are attending and have graduated from Baylor Law. Take it for what it's worth.


Who? I literally have never met one person who even mildly liked it. This extends all the way to the fact that I walked to the law school, asked three random students their thoughts and got 1 answer: Go to a different school/do something else.


Baylor sucks.

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby da87 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:10 am

Bustang wrote:
da87 wrote:I am a Baylor undergrad...might go to Baylor Law. However, I have know multiple people who go there and have talked to many graduates of Baylor Law.

So, a lot of the people I have talked to absolutely love it. They love the people, professors, facilities, and the fact that it is small. Yes, it is challenging, but it makes them better lawyers in the long run.

Other people have said that the competitiveness gets somewhat exhausting, while others thrive on it.

As far as grads go and job placement, most of the Baylor Law grads I know ended up in Dallas. They have some very good connections with Dallas firms. One of them, who works in Dallas, said that he and a University of Texas Law grad were hired at a firm. The first week he was doing really well and felt completely prepared for everything, while the UT Law grad kept having to ask him about things and what to do because she had no idea what she was doing. So all that to say, Baylor prepares you very well, which is why it is so tough.

This isn't my experience, just what I have heard from people who are attending and have graduated from Baylor Law. Take it for what it's worth.


Who? I literally have never met one person who even mildly liked it. This extends all the way to the fact that I walked to the law school, asked three random students their thoughts and got 1 answer: Go to a different school/do something else.


Baylor sucks.


Obviously I have been to the law school as well...multiple times. And randomly picking out three students to ask is not a good sample. I never said that everyone likes it, I just simply stated that some people do and some people don't. Also, I talked to people who already graduated from Baylor law a long time ago, people who gradutated within the last few years and students who are currently enrolled. So I assume it's fair to say that I have talked to a fair representation of people. And I will say, of those people, the majority were glad that they chose Baylor.

If you don't care for Baylor, then you shouldn't have gone there for undergrad. I completely respect your own opinion about Baylor Law, but that opinion most likely is suited to your interests. Like I have said, Baylor is a better law school for some people and it isn't for others. It strictly depends on that person's situation in entirety.

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby Esc » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:27 am

da87 wrote:
Bustang wrote:
da87 wrote:I am a Baylor undergrad...might go to Baylor Law. However, I have know multiple people who go there and have talked to many graduates of Baylor Law.

So, a lot of the people I have talked to absolutely love it. They love the people, professors, facilities, and the fact that it is small. Yes, it is challenging, but it makes them better lawyers in the long run.

Other people have said that the competitiveness gets somewhat exhausting, while others thrive on it.

As far as grads go and job placement, most of the Baylor Law grads I know ended up in Dallas. They have some very good connections with Dallas firms. One of them, who works in Dallas, said that he and a University of Texas Law grad were hired at a firm. The first week he was doing really well and felt completely prepared for everything, while the UT Law grad kept having to ask him about things and what to do because she had no idea what she was doing. So all that to say, Baylor prepares you very well, which is why it is so tough.

This isn't my experience, just what I have heard from people who are attending and have graduated from Baylor Law. Take it for what it's worth.


Who? I literally have never met one person who even mildly liked it. This extends all the way to the fact that I walked to the law school, asked three random students their thoughts and got 1 answer: Go to a different school/do something else.


Baylor sucks.


Obviously I have been to the law school as well...multiple times. And randomly picking out three students to ask is not a good sample. I never said that everyone likes it, I just simply stated that some people do and some people don't. Also, I talked to people who already graduated from Baylor law a long time ago, people who gradutated within the last few years and students who are currently enrolled. So I assume it's fair to say that I have talked to a fair representation of people. And I will say, of those people, the majority were glad that they chose Baylor.

If you don't care for Baylor, then you shouldn't have gone there for undergrad. I completely respect your own opinion about Baylor Law, but that opinion most likely is suited to your interests. Like I have said, Baylor is a better law school for some people and it isn't for others. It strictly depends on that person's situation in entirety.


The only person I ever met who spoke well of Baylor was a fanatically intense ADA who seemed to take spiritual delight in sending people to jail and was visibly disdainful of a criminal defense attorney who spoke of the need to represent all defendants and make sure everyone had a fair trial. To me that didn't speak well of the atmosphere at Baylor.

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby HBK » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:29 am

da87 wrote:
Bustang wrote:
da87 wrote:I am a Baylor undergrad...might go to Baylor Law. However, I have know multiple people who go there and have talked to many graduates of Baylor Law.

So, a lot of the people I have talked to absolutely love it. They love the people, professors, facilities, and the fact that it is small. Yes, it is challenging, but it makes them better lawyers in the long run.

Other people have said that the competitiveness gets somewhat exhausting, while others thrive on it.

As far as grads go and job placement, most of the Baylor Law grads I know ended up in Dallas. They have some very good connections with Dallas firms. One of them, who works in Dallas, said that he and a University of Texas Law grad were hired at a firm. The first week he was doing really well and felt completely prepared for everything, while the UT Law grad kept having to ask him about things and what to do because she had no idea what she was doing. So all that to say, Baylor prepares you very well, which is why it is so tough.

This isn't my experience, just what I have heard from people who are attending and have graduated from Baylor Law. Take it for what it's worth.


Who? I literally have never met one person who even mildly liked it. This extends all the way to the fact that I walked to the law school, asked three random students their thoughts and got 1 answer: Go to a different school/do something else.


Baylor sucks.


Obviously I have been to the law school as well...multiple times. And randomly picking out three students to ask is not a good sample. I never said that everyone likes it, I just simply stated that some people do and some people don't. Also, I talked to people who already graduated from Baylor law a long time ago, people who gradutated within the last few years and students who are currently enrolled. So I assume it's fair to say that I have talked to a fair representation of people. And I will say, of those people, the majority were glad that they chose Baylor.

If you don't care for Baylor, then you shouldn't have gone there for undergrad. I completely respect your own opinion about Baylor Law, but that opinion most likely is suited to your interests. Like I have said, Baylor is a better law school for some people and it isn't for others. It strictly depends on that person's situation in entirety.


Quarter system = 3 sets of finals per year

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby da87 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:36 am

Esc wrote:
da87 wrote:
Bustang wrote:
da87 wrote:I am a Baylor undergrad...might go to Baylor Law. However, I have know multiple people who go there and have talked to many graduates of Baylor Law.

So, a lot of the people I have talked to absolutely love it. They love the people, professors, facilities, and the fact that it is small. Yes, it is challenging, but it makes them better lawyers in the long run.

Other people have said that the competitiveness gets somewhat exhausting, while others thrive on it.

As far as grads go and job placement, most of the Baylor Law grads I know ended up in Dallas. They have some very good connections with Dallas firms. One of them, who works in Dallas, said that he and a University of Texas Law grad were hired at a firm. The first week he was doing really well and felt completely prepared for everything, while the UT Law grad kept having to ask him about things and what to do because she had no idea what she was doing. So all that to say, Baylor prepares you very well, which is why it is so tough.

This isn't my experience, just what I have heard from people who are attending and have graduated from Baylor Law. Take it for what it's worth.


Who? I literally have never met one person who even mildly liked it. This extends all the way to the fact that I walked to the law school, asked three random students their thoughts and got 1 answer: Go to a different school/do something else.


Baylor sucks.


Obviously I have been to the law school as well...multiple times. And randomly picking out three students to ask is not a good sample. I never said that everyone likes it, I just simply stated that some people do and some people don't. Also, I talked to people who already graduated from Baylor law a long time ago, people who gradutated within the last few years and students who are currently enrolled. So I assume it's fair to say that I have talked to a fair representation of people. And I will say, of those people, the majority were glad that they chose Baylor.

If you don't care for Baylor, then you shouldn't have gone there for undergrad. I completely respect your own opinion about Baylor Law, but that opinion most likely is suited to your interests. Like I have said, Baylor is a better law school for some people and it isn't for others. It strictly depends on that person's situation in entirety.


The only person I ever met who spoke well of Baylor was a fanatically intense ADA who seemed to take spiritual delight in sending people to jail and was visibly disdainful of a criminal defense attorney who spoke of the need to represent all defendants and make sure everyone had a fair trial. To me that didn't speak well of the atmosphere at Baylor.


I know some very well respected criminal defense attorneys that graduated from Baylor who are very fair and work their tails off for their clients. They loved Baylor.

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby colemf » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:40 am

I am in the exact same situation, full ride offer from baylor but accepted to several other schools including UofH, its will be hard to turn down money but i just can't see myself living in Waco for 3 years in that atmosphere, plus if im already living in Houston(assuming i go to UofH) i wont have to move for summer internships, and i just looked up the previous US News ranking, Baylor has recently been dropping while Uof H has been steadly rising. I just dont know if i can throw money away, but on the other hand with the 2.5 req. keeping the scholly is by no means a sure thing.

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Postby da87 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:43 am

colemf wrote:I am in the exact same situation, full ride offer from baylor but accepted to several other schools including UofH, its will be hard to turn down money but i just can't see myself living in Waco for 3 years in that atmosphere, plus if im already living in Houston(assuming i go to UofH) i wont have to move for summer internships, and i just looked up the previous US News ranking, Baylor has recently been dropping while Uof H has been steadly rising. I just dont know if i can throw money away, but on the other hand with the 2.5 req. keeping the scholly is by no means a sure thing.


Do what you think is personally best for you and your situation. Just from what you said, it sounds as though UofH would be best. I'm from Dallas so I'm kinda in that same boat except with SMU, not UofH.

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby pugalicious » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:49 am

Off topic, but about UofH (I'm accepted but not from Texas), is it really in the worst part of town?

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Postby da87 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:50 am

pugalicious wrote:Off topic, but about UofH (I'm accepted but not from Texas), is it really in the worst part of town?


That's what one of my friends that's from Houston says.

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Postby colemf » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:52 am

Its not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, i loved where the school is located, it is also important to note that the worst of Texas/Houston is still better than the best part of any other state.

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Postby HBK » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:54 am

pugalicious wrote:Off topic, but about UofH (I'm accepted but not from Texas), is it really in the worst part of town?


It's very close to the ghetto. But there are plenty of housing options close by that are safe. Houston is very much a commuter town. Everything is at least fifteen minutes away. There are plenty of options within a close drive from the school that aren't in the ghetto.

I had some buddies who went to UH undergrad and rented a house in the third ward. Three bedrooms for $400. They always had crackheads coming by in the morning begging to drink their empties after they threw house parties.

It was an experience.

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Postby pugalicious » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:58 am

colemf wrote:Its not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, i loved where the school is located, it is also important to note that the worst of Texas/Houston is still better than the best part of any other state.


HA. Reason #1 that I love Texans. Extreme, baseless, self-confidence. Like when I look in the mirror in the morning : )

I don't know about the crackheads though...single white female often taking small dog for walks alone...I'm getting robbed!

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Postby HBK » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:04 am

pugalicious wrote:
colemf wrote:Its not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, i loved where the school is located, it is also important to note that the worst of Texas/Houston is still better than the best part of any other state.


HA. Reason #1 that I love Texans. Extreme, baseless, self-confidence. Like when I look in the mirror in the morning : )

I don't know about the crackheads though...single white female often taking small dog for walks alone...I'm getting robbed!


If you're lucky. You may get rape-murdered, or alternatively murder-raped. Eight years ago, it was a very rough area of town. I only imagine it's gotten worse since Katrina.

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Postby pugalicious » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:06 am

HBK wrote:
pugalicious wrote:
colemf wrote:Its not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, i loved where the school is located, it is also important to note that the worst of Texas/Houston is still better than the best part of any other state.


HA. Reason #1 that I love Texans. Extreme, baseless, self-confidence. Like when I look in the mirror in the morning : )

I don't know about the crackheads though...single white female often taking small dog for walks alone...I'm getting robbed!


If you're lucky. You may get rape-murdered, or alternatively murder-raped. Eight years ago, it was a very rough area of town. I only imagine it's gotten worse since Katrina.


Hopefully murder-raped...

AND....on THAT note....no more wine+TLS posting... : )

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Re: Any Baylor Students out there??

Postby anthonyc350 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:19 am

To some of the people in here, if you got a full scholarship to a school and still aren't considering it, why waste time applying? JW




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