vanwinkle wrote:EijiMiyake wrote:I'm not sure how serious you are, but it seems kind of silly to base any decision on SCOTUS clerk hiring, for example, when even HLS placed only 83. True, 83 is a lot more than 3, but also a lot fewer than 4500 (approximate HLS grads in 8 years).
You're making an enormous mistake, and that's looking at these numbers as only their own value, and not what they really are, which is representative of a much greater phenomenon: The HLS degree carries far more prestige and opens more doors than a Penn degree. Even if you don't get to be one of those 83 or so HLS grads that clerk for SCOTUS in the next 8 years, that extra prestige still extends to ease in getting COA clerkships (which there are many, many more of available), academic jobs (those 993 professors that graduated from HLS didn't all clerk for SCOTUS), and so on and so forth.
It also extends to BigLaw. Law firms love HLS grads because they can use the number of HLS grads in their employment as a selling point to clients. They can use the fact that they're putting an HLS grad on a client's case as a selling point to the client. Clients know and love the HLS name. With the economy the way it is, firms have been cutting back hiring by cutting how deep they go pretty much everywhere, but they go a lot deeper at HLS than they do almost anywhere else, even the lower T14.
Penn still places well in BigLaw, and if that's all you're after then going to Penn might make more sense because Penn's placement in BigLaw is still very strong and you don't need all the prestige you can get to help you there, like you do in the clerkships and academia markets. Simply going to Penn and doing well will be enough to get you a job in BigLaw.
My point wasn't that Penn and HLS are equal everywhere else - it's just that even in the cases where they are the most unequal (the stats that you cited), you still have to do very, very well at HLS to have access to those opportunities.