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Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:08 pm
by itsmytime10
I want to work in chicago and i have a 50% scholarship at UIUC and a Full ride at Iowa.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:09 pm
by 09042014
Try to negotiate with Illinois to match then come back and ask. /pause thread.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:12 pm
by cr073137
itsmytime10 wrote:I want to work in chicago and i have a 50% scholarship at UIUC and a Full ride at Iowa.
Look at Iowa's placement in Chicago, UIUC is such much better.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:13 pm
by itsmytime10
cr073137 wrote:
itsmytime10 wrote:I want to work in chicago and i have a 50% scholarship at UIUC and a Full ride at Iowa.
Look at Iowa's placement in Chicago, UIUC is such much better.
True, but a full ride is hard to turn down.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:18 pm
by 09042014
itsmytime10 wrote:
cr073137 wrote:
itsmytime10 wrote:I want to work in chicago and i have a 50% scholarship at UIUC and a Full ride at Iowa.
Look at Iowa's placement in Chicago, UIUC is such much better.
True, but a full ride is hard to turn down.
A couple years ago this would have been an easier decision. UIUC is better than Iowa for Chicago, by a considerable margin. But during last OCI, even being top10% and being on law review wasn't safe to get big law at UIUC.

Is graduating with 120K debt at Illinois with poor prospects better than graduating with 60K debt at Iowa with really poor prospects? Probably not.

I'd really see if Illinois will match their scholarship. If they can it becomes a very easy choice.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:47 pm
by TCScrutinizer
I don't know why you'd turn down a full ride to a comparably ranked school, unless you really love UIUC or the idea of Chicago biglaw... in which case I'd start working on your transfer to U Chicago or Northwestern. Apples to apples, I prefer UIUC by far, but a full ride to Iowa is pretty damn good.

Placement statistics are no guarantee of success. A full ride is a guarantee that you're going to make it out of law school $100K richer than your peers.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:05 pm
by itsmytime10
TCS wrote:I don't know why you'd turn down a full ride to a comparably ranked school, unless you really love UIUC or the idea of Chicago biglaw... in which case I'd start working on your transfer to U Chicago or Northwestern. Apples to apples, I prefer UIUC by far, but a full ride to Iowa is pretty damn good.

Placement statistics are no guarantee of success. A full ride is a guarantee that you're going to make it out of law school $100K richer than your peers.
Good Point. At this point i am leaning towards Iowa.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:07 pm
by 09042014
itsmytime10 wrote:
TCS wrote:I don't know why you'd turn down a full ride to a comparably ranked school, unless you really love UIUC or the idea of Chicago biglaw... in which case I'd start working on your transfer to U Chicago or Northwestern. Apples to apples, I prefer UIUC by far, but a full ride to Iowa is pretty damn good.

Placement statistics are no guarantee of success. A full ride is a guarantee that you're going to make it out of law school $100K richer than your peers.
Good Point. At this point i am leaning towards Iowa.
I went to UIUC for undergrad, love the school, probably would have gone there for law school if NU didn't work out, and I'd still go Iowa if I were you.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:11 pm
by itsmytime10
Desert Fox wrote:
itsmytime10 wrote:
TCS wrote:I don't know why you'd turn down a full ride to a comparably ranked school, unless you really love UIUC or the idea of Chicago biglaw... in which case I'd start working on your transfer to U Chicago or Northwestern. Apples to apples, I prefer UIUC by far, but a full ride to Iowa is pretty damn good.

Placement statistics are no guarantee of success. A full ride is a guarantee that you're going to make it out of law school $100K richer than your peers.
Good Point. At this point i am leaning towards Iowa.
I went to UIUC for undergrad, love the school, probably would have gone their for law school if NU didn't work out, and I'd still go Iowa if I were you.
Thanks DF

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:12 pm
by Z3RO
I'm gonna come out and say it: odds of getting Chi big law are slim in either case. I don't think I would spend much money to keep that door cracked open.

If you can tolerate living in Iowa for the next large chunk of your life, go with Iowa. Hell, you won't even need to make that much there compared to COL difference you'll pay in Chicago while you eat the employment scraps that fall from the T14 saturated table.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:12 pm
by 09042014
itsmytime10 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
itsmytime10 wrote:
Good Point. At this point i am leaning towards Iowa.
I went to UIUC for undergrad, love the school, probably would have gone their for law school if NU didn't work out, and I'd still go Iowa if I were you.
Thanks DF
To reiterate a previous suggestion. Call up Dean Pless at Illinois and talk about how'd you really prefer Illinois, but the full ride is impossible to pass up and see if you can't get you a better scholarship. This isn't rude it is normal. And it is the smart thing to do.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:14 pm
by itsmytime10
Desert Fox wrote:
itsmytime10 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
itsmytime10 wrote:
Good Point. At this point i am leaning towards Iowa.
I went to UIUC for undergrad, love the school, probably would have gone their for law school if NU didn't work out, and I'd still go Iowa if I were you.
Thanks DF
To reiterate a previous suggestion. Call up Dean Pless at Illinois and talk about how'd you really prefer Illinois, but the full ride is impossible to pass up and see if you can't get you a better scholarship. This isn't rude it is normal. And it is the smart thing to do.
It didnt work;)

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:15 pm
by JayTal
I'm actually in the same situation and sent a letter to UIUC asking if they wouldn't reconsider my file for possible more money. Here's to hoping!

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:16 pm
by itsmytime10
Z3RO wrote:I'm gonna come out and say it: odds of getting Chi big law are slim in either case. I don't think I would spend much money to keep that door cracked open.

If you can tolerate living in Iowa for the next large chunk of your life, go with Iowa. Hell, you won't even need to make that much there compared to COL difference you'll pay in Chicago while you eat the employment scraps that fall from the T14 saturated table.
There are a couple of things that makes me think i can get biglaw in Chicago...
I am doing IP and i have a masters in engineering and years of experience at a big engineering company.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:17 pm
by itsmytime10
JayTal wrote:I'm actually in the same situation and sent a letter to UIUC asking if they wouldn't reconsider my file for possible more money. Here's to hoping!
Good Luck..I wasnt too lucky.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:31 pm
by Z3RO
itsmytime10 wrote:
Z3RO wrote:I'm gonna come out and say it: odds of getting Chi big law are slim in either case. I don't think I would spend much money to keep that door cracked open.

If you can tolerate living in Iowa for the next large chunk of your life, go with Iowa. Hell, you won't even need to make that much there compared to COL difference you'll pay in Chicago while you eat the employment scraps that fall from the T14 saturated table.
There are a couple of things that makes me think i can get biglaw in Chicago...
I am doing IP and i have a masters in engineering and years of experience at a big engineering company.
Well that really does muddy the waters.

I don't really know what to do then. With that background you'll more than likely be fine no matter what you do. Best of luck and congrats on the schollys.

Re: Please help. UIUC vs IOWA

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:03 pm
by itsmytime10
mmm, it is interesting that UIUC seems to be winning this vote.
People, i need more votes...