Save yourselves! Do NOT go to the SETON HALL LAW TOILET Forum

[ThirdTierWarrior]

Why oh why is anyone considering attending this overpriced third tier toilet? Which employment statistics shown in their glossy brochure have NOT been manipulated? Can you find one?

Do you think you will be treated with respect by the smiling faculty and administrators on their website?

They will treat you with nothing but disdain and condescension from the first day until the last final exam you take. Then you will immediately get hustled for alum 'DONATIONS' to perpetuate this TTTOILET fraud.

You were warned Ebeneezer...you were warned...

[carlkenneth]

Wow...talk about hate! I was seriously considering attending for a while because they offered me $. I still haven't written them off. I'm guessing you're a current student. What's your beef with SHU?

[jen_said]

Yeah for real. We all know jersey sucks but thats some serious hate towards the school.

Any specific reasons?

[baboon309]

Seton hall just stinks...

[StoneontaState]

Besides its ranking, can we hear some facts about why the school sucks and not just arbitrary rambling.

[Billy Batts]

Why oh why is anyone considering attending this overpriced third tier toilet? Which employment statistics shown in their glossy brochure have NOT been manipulated? Can you find one?

Do you think you will be treated with respect by the smiling faculty and administrators on their website?

They will treat you with nothing but disdain and condescension from the first day until the last final exam you take. Then you will immediately get hustled for alum 'DONATIONS' to perpetuate this TTTOILET fraud.

You were warned Ebeneezer...you were warned...

Don't beat around the bush - tell us how you feel...

[ThirdTierWarrior]

Yeah for real. We all know jersey sucks but thats some serious hate towards the school.

Any specific reasons?

All i can talk about is my own experience. That is the way the administrators and many (not all) professors chose to deal with the students. Constantly surveilled and treated as if we were hiding some 'nondisclosed' ethics violation. Then when we graduate we are suddently supposed to feel like it was all in good fun and now we are part of their exclusive club? That was unacceptable to me.

I will never donate one penny to that school and never set foot in its doors again.

Several friends of mine graduated Rutgers Law School and say they had a good experience and were treated with respect. I only wish I had known that before I chose to attend SeTTTon hall law.

GL all.

[erniesto]

1) It's dean runs the athletic program. (Conflict of interest. Shitty basketball team.)
2) Newark
3-99) New Jersey

[ThirdTierWarrior]

1) It's dean runs the athletic program. (Conflict of interest. Shitty basketball team.)
2) Newark
3-99) New Jersey

Good points.

The Dean 'guided' the Law School to being dropped from #66 to #77 in USN&WR. I guess he did such a great job that he can take on the new responsibility of ruining the athletic department.

Please. Save yourselves.

[carlkenneth]

All i can talk about is my own experience. That is the way the administrators and many (not all) professors chose to deal with the students. Constantly surveilled and treated as if we were hiding some 'nondisclosed' ethics violation. Then when we graduate we are suddently supposed to feel like it was all in good fun and now we are part of their exclusive club? That was unacceptable to me.

Ummm...ok. Can you (or someone else) please elaborate on this? This isn't very helpful if we don't have details. what kinds of "non-disclosed" ethics violations? How do professors deal with students? There isn't much first hand info on this site about SHU, so a thread like this immediately raises flags for prospective students.

[ThirdTierWarrior]

All i can talk about is my own experience. That is the way the administrators and many (not all) professors chose to deal with the students. Constantly surveilled and treated as if we were hiding some 'nondisclosed' ethics violation. Then when we graduate we are suddently supposed to feel like it was all in good fun and now we are part of their exclusive club? That was unacceptable to me.

Ummm...ok. Can you (or someone else) please elaborate on this? This isn't very helpful if we don't have details. what kinds of "non-disclosed" ethics violations? How do professors deal with students? There isn't much first hand info on this site about SHU, so a thread like this immediately raises flags for prospective students.

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I will try to be specific but it is difficult since in essence I am describing how I felt as a student. There are almost as many "spy" (the administration would say '"security") cameras in this small school as on a casino floor. Not only that, but the classrooms are equipped with audio and video surveillance. Nothing you do or say in your years there will go unrecorded. It is all about control for this administration. They preach a free discourse and an open dialogue of ideas...That is comical. That is like Fidel Castro preaching about the benefits of freedom as he takes your home from you.

These cameras and microphones should be turned ON THIS ADMINISTRATION and not on the students. This ADMINISTRATION is the one who provides their insanely unrealistic and unverifiable employment statistics. This ADMINISTRATION is the one who accepted a shakedown from the pharmaceutical industry to fund the teaching legal medical 'ethics' (Gee I wonder how that curriculum will skew).

Please. Just do a little research for yourself. Don't believe me. And do not accuse me of Being Scott Bullock. I am not Scott.

Scott is great though. He is the Upton Sinclair of the Seton Hall Law TTTOILET

[yo!]

Couldn't get a biglaw job after making the top 90% eh?

[amclane]

I will try to be specific but it is difficult since in essence I am describing how I felt as a student. There are almost as many "spy" (the administration would say '"security") cameras in this small school as on a casino floor. Not only that, but the classrooms are equipped with audio and video surveillance. Nothing you do or say in your years there will go unrecorded. It is all about control for this administration. They preach a free discourse and an open dialogue of ideas...That is comical. That is like Fidel Castro preaching about the benefits of freedom as he takes your home from you.

These cameras and microphones should be turned ON THIS ADMINISTRATION and not on the students. This ADMINISTRATION is the one who provides their insanely unrealistic and unverifiable employment statistics. This ADMINISTRATION is the one who accepted a shakedown from the pharmaceutical industry to fund the teaching legal medical 'ethics' (Gee I wonder how that curriculum will skew).

Please. Just do a little research for yourself. Don't believe me. And do not accuse me of Being Scott Bullock. I am not Scott.

Scott is great though. He is the Upton Sinclair of the Seton Hall Law TTTOILET

Conspiracy theory much?

Also, I won't believe you and no "research" leads me to the sorts of things you are claiming and rambling about.

[ThirdTierWarrior]

Couldn't get a biglaw job after making the top 90% eh?

Funny. Zany. Witty. Insulting.

You got me! You old card! haha! Great job!

Guess what. I made my own way with no help from this TTTOILET. Let's hope you do the same.

Try to remember us regular folks when you are a billionaire eating caviar on your yacht. Good luck.

[ThirdTierWarrior]

I will try to be specific but it is difficult since in essence I am describing how I felt as a student. There are almost as many "spy" (the administration would say '"security") cameras in this small school as on a casino floor. Not only that, but the classrooms are equipped with audio and video surveillance. Nothing you do or say in your years there will go unrecorded. It is all about control for this administration. They preach a free discourse and an open dialogue of ideas...That is comical. That is like Fidel Castro preaching about the benefits of freedom as he takes your home from you.

These cameras and microphones should be turned ON THIS ADMINISTRATION and not on the students. This ADMINISTRATION is the one who provides their insanely unrealistic and unverifiable employment statistics. This ADMINISTRATION is the one who accepted a shakedown from the pharmaceutical industry to fund the teaching legal medical 'ethics' (Gee I wonder how that curriculum will skew).

Please. Just do a little research for yourself. Don't believe me. And do not accuse me of Being Scott Bullock. I am not Scott.

Scott is great though. He is the Upton Sinclair of the Seton Hall Law TTTOILET

Conspiracy theory much?

Also, I won't believe you and no "research" leads me to the sorts of things you are claiming and rambling about.

I understand. There is a reason lemmings run off cliffs.

[holydonkey]

And do not accuse me of Being Scott Bullock.

I think you're Scott Bullock.

[amclane]

And do not accuse me of Being Scott Bullock.

I think you're Scott Bullock.

Who is Scott Bullock?

[holydonkey]

And do not accuse me of Being Scott Bullock.

I think you're Scott Bullock.

Who is Scott Bullock?

I have no idea.

[yo!]

There is a reason lemmings run off cliffs

What is the reason exactly? You should know from first hand experience. I'm not going to seTTTon, I just think you are a whiny d-bag.

[kilgore_trout]

And do not accuse me of Being Scott Bullock. I am not Scott.

From Wikipedia:

Stuart Scott Bullock (born May 7, 1956) is an American voice actor, best known for his role as King Goobot in The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius.

Is this the Scott Bullock you are talking about? Is the Upton Sinclair of Seton Hall really the voice of King Goobot? That is reason enough for me not to consider going to Seton Hall.

[amclane]

And do not accuse me of Being Scott Bullock. I am not Scott.

From Wikipedia:

Stuart Scott Bullock (born May 7, 1956) is an American voice actor, best known for his role as King Goobot in The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius.

Is this the Scott Bullock you are talking about? Is the Upton Sinclair of Seton Hall really the voice of King Goobot? That is reason enough for me not to consider going to Seton Hall.

+1

[holydonkey]

This Scott Bullock? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Bullock

Guy was lead counsel for Susette Kelo in Kelo v. City of New London. He seems cool, although he must be a sucky lawyer to lose Kelo. But what does he have to do with Seton Hall?

[yo!]

haha check out the rest of his posts. Will a mod please IP ban this fucker?

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/s ... 0&sr=posts

[Burger in a can]

This ADMINISTRATION is the one who accepted a shakedown from the pharmaceutical industry to fund the teaching legal medical 'ethics' (Gee I wonder how that curriculum will skew).

I hope you don't plan on pursuing a career investigating any RICO cases, because just so you know, you can't accept a shakedown. A shakedown is cast upon thee.

[bitlrc]

yo! i think your tar is pretty apt right about now