bernie shmegma wrote: get it to x wrote:
wadeny wrote:This one isn't even close. Rutgers is by far the cheapest and seems to have (relatively speaking) the lowest stipulation to keep your scholarship. Cardozo probably has the best overall academic reputation of the four, but it's not worth that much crippling debt.
Agreed regarding Cardozo. May be on the rise, but the cost is too much at this point in its development. Just my two cents.
So I presume that people would poll very differently if cost was no issue. Am I stating the obvious? In other words is there that big of a difference between Rutgers and Cardozo without cost mattering, if one is most likely going to end up in NJ anyway. Minus cost and minus NY city Big law, does one gain more experience at one law school over the other to prepare them for NJ legal market, whether as a prosecutor, lobbyist, mid size firm, Non-profit attorney etc.?
I am curious to know if people think Cardozo is the better SCHOOL.
In a perfect world, if you have a full-ride to each, I believe it would come down to the small things that differentiates each one from the other. If you want the most well respected faculty members teaching you maybe it's Brooklyn or maybe Cardozo offers a clinic that the rest do not. Maybe you want to live and study in Manhattan. Those are things that I would be focusing on. I'm really not a believer that any one law school is better than the other academically. Everyone teaches the same basic sequence of courses. It's job placement, lay prestige, electives/clinics, and those God-forsaken USNWR rankings that make one school "better" than the next. So Cardozo may offer what you're looking for in terms of more extensive clinics and electives which may make it the better school in that regard. However, I'm skeptical they teach torts or civ pro any better than Brooklyn or the rest.
Unrelated to your inquiry, I think Cardozo is hot right now. It might continue to be so for some time (2-5 years). It may establish itself next to Fordham as a nice viable option for those who cannot be admitted to NYU or Columbia. If I'm thinking correctly NYU was in a similar situation 20-25 years ago. Right now, though, its sticker price and COL is too risky b/c it could very well not crack that level. If it was a state school and/or a private institution with lower tuition I would say that it is probably worth your money.
Rutgers, Brooklyn, SJU, and SHU, (particularly Rutgers) don't seem to be making a move up the rankings. Frankly, RU's holistic admissions approach and, from what I see, a real dedication to quality education and the people of New Jersey will probably keep it where it is ranking-wise for a long time. Personally, I like a school that draws the line in the sand and believes that there's more to life than USNWR and knows what it is and where it's going. But that's just me.