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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by orphanarium » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:28 am

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by JusticeHarlan » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:33 am

Massachusetts probably goes like this:

1) BC/BU (tie)
3) Northeastern
4) Suffolk
5) New England School of Law

Feel free to correct me if that seems off.

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by RayFinkle » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:35 am

Missouri:

1) SLU
2) WUSTL

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by Spaceman Spiff » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:39 am

Thomas Jefferson wrote:VA: W&L > W&M, IMO, but this is debatable so perhaps they should just be tied
NY: 1. Fordham 2. (don't know enough about the rest)
I agree with this. At the least, W&L and W&M should be tied, if not actually reversed.

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by im_blue » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:40 am

RayFinkle wrote:Missouri:

1) SLU
2) WUSTL
Blatant anti-Mizzou/UMKC trolling!

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by Grizz » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:06 am

GA

1) Emory
2) UGA
3) Georgia State
4) Mercer
5) John Marshall

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by TTTennis » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:08 am

orphanarium wrote:For CA-SF Area, I'm pretty sure out of non-T14s, the best schools would be: UC Davis & UC Hastings

P.S. Chapman trumps Southwestern for California.
Blatant anti-UCLA/USC trolling

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by Mattalones » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:10 am

For Mass.

Why is BC>BU???

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by whitman » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:18 am

For non T14s, I would think that Vanderbilt trumps a lot of the other southern schools. Certainly Georgia and maybe North Carolina.

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by Grizz » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:21 am

whitman wrote:For non T14s, I would think that Vanderbilt trumps a lot of the other southern schools. Certainly Georgia and maybe North Carolina.
Blatant anti-Wake trolling.

But Vanderbilt places better than all three, I would say.

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Post by lawhawk » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:23 am

For South Carolina: I think if a UNC, UGA, Emory, or Vandy alum really was dead set on living and working in SC, then they may even have a leg up and a SC grad.

Same thing in Mississippi: if an Alabama, UGA, or Vandy alum was dead set I think they beat an Ole Miss grad.

Same thing in Arizona: if a UCLA, USC, or Texas grad really was dead set on Arizona they would beat out a UA or ASU alum

and so on...

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by ENGINEERD » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:23 am

im_blue wrote:
RayFinkle wrote:Missouri:

1) SLU
2) WUSTL
Blatant anti-Mizzou/UMKC trolling!
What is a SLU?

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by RickyRoe » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:28 am

INDIANA:

Bloomington
Notre Dame
Indianapolis
Valpo


Bloomington and ND are tied at #23, but anyone from the midwest will tell you that Notre Dame is really an Illinois school. More ND grads sit for the Illinois bar than any other state, including Indiana. You could probably include it as #4 on Illinois' list after Chicago, Northwestern, and Illinois.

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by Kobe_Teeth » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:38 am

Illinois:
UIUC
Loyola
Kent
DePaul
Northern
JMLS
SIUC (maybe flip-flop SIUC and JMLS?...but probably not)

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by Kobe_Teeth » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:39 am

RickyRoe wrote:INDIANA:

Bloomington
Notre Dame
Indianapolis
Valpo


Bloomington and ND are tied at #23, but anyone from the midwest will tell you that Notre Dame is really an Illinois school. More ND grads sit for the Illinois bar than any other state, including Indiana. You could probably include it as #4 on Illinois' list after Chicago, Northwestern, and Illinois.
Gonna go ahead fix my post...he's right.

Illinois:
UIUC
Notre Dame
Loyola
Kent
DePaul
Northern
JMLS
SIUC (maybe flip-flop SIUC and JMLS?...but probably not)

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by sarlis » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:43 am

Ohio:

OSU
Case
Cincy (a close third)
CM/Capital
Akron/Toledo/Dayton
Ohio Northern

This list, of course, for the bottom half, depends on where you want to work

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by sluguy14 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:46 am

This is a great idea for a thread, very helpful.

As far as Missouri goes, there might actually be a case for putting SLU ahead of WUSTL in terms of job placement in Missouri. Are we using actual placement or potential placement? If we're basing things on job potential/prestige/quality of the school, then WUSTL is clearly the best school in Missouri. If we're basing things on actual job placement in the state of Missouri, SLU might have a case. Remember, SLU grads almost exclusively practice in Missouri (St. Louis) after graduation- and SLU dominates the St. Louis market. Based on personal research, a lot of WUSTL grads seem to go elsewhere- although this is without doing much research into the overall job placement statistics within state.

If we're doing things based on quality of school, though, the list would be:

1) WUSTL
2) Mizzou
2) SLU

If you want to go by USNews rankings, Mizzou has the edge over SLU- but both schools offer similar educations and strong regional placement with poor placement outside of that region. I've done zero research on UMKC, though I suspect that it would probably trail SLU/Mizz (but this is based on gut feeling and nothing more).

Edit: A lot of WUSTL grads choose to go elsewhere because, obviously, there are better/more lucrative places to work than St. Louis/Missouri. WUSTL clearly has the best law school in Missouri and will provide successful students the best job opportunities overall. The field is a bit more level if you're looking strictly at Missouri placement, though. And some Missouri employers view WUSTL grads as flight risks.

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by danquayle » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:35 am

RickyRoe wrote:INDIANA:

Bloomington
Notre Dame
Indianapolis
Valpo


Bloomington and ND are tied at #23, but anyone from the midwest will tell you that Notre Dame is really an Illinois school. More ND grads sit for the Illinois bar than any other state, including Indiana. You could probably include it as #4 on Illinois' list after Chicago, Northwestern, and Illinois.
This might be true, but a Notre Dame degree will still carry more weight than an IU one, even in Indiana. So Notre Dame is indeed #1 in Indiana.

Shifting schools into another state will eventually make this point untenable.

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by Stanford4Me » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:49 am

Texas: TEXAS TTTECH UNIVERSITY!

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by 14yearplan » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:20 am

So Cal

UCLA = USC > UC Irvine > UC Davis = UC Hastings > USD = Loyola = Pepperdine > The rest

If you were hiring in So Cal, would you hire a Loyola Law Grad over a UC Irvine/Davis/Hastings Grad (other factors being equal)? I think not.

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by AsylumPB » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:44 am

Kentucky:

University of Louisville
University of Kentucky
Northern Kentucky University

- Even though UofL is a T2, in my experience it places better within Louisville (the largest city in KY). It seems that every attorney I meet in the area graduated from UofL. Plus, there is a strong rivalry between these two schools and a UofL grad will hire another UofL grad over a UK grad just for spite.
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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by thickfreakness » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:46 am

lawhawk wrote: Same thing in Mississippi: if an [strike]Alabama[/strike], [strike]UGA[/strike] Vandy alum was dead set I think they beat an Ole Miss grad.
FTFY

Ole Miss grads get the jobs they want in MS because that state's functionally an aristocratic oligopoly of good ol' boys.

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Re: The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools

Post by gatorlion » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:48 am

Please note that for the state of Vermont, the law school is "Vermont Law School," and not "University of Vermont."

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Post by prospectiveprospect » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:55 am

gatorlion wrote:Please note that for the state of Vermont, the law school is "Vermont Law School," and not "University of Vermont."
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