Harvard 3Ls Without Job Prospects

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ConMan345
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Re: Harvard 3Ls Without Job Prospects

Postby ConMan345 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:13 pm

Yeah, it's from that UCLA LR article that's always bandied about in the affirmative action threads. Pretty crazy shit, if you ask me.

Disclaimer: this reply contains no implied judgments as to the value of affirmative action, merely flabbergastation.

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Re: Harvard 3Ls Without Job Prospects

Postby onthecusp » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:18 am

Renzo wrote:I still think that you have to be defective to end up unemployed out of HLS. And by defective I include unwilling to work outside of NYC, unwilling to look for jobs outside of OCI, and unwilling to work for $145k instead of $160k.


This. If you can't get a job out of Harvard, it's not because you don't have options; it's because you're being snobbish about the options you have.

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Re: Harvard 3Ls Without Job Prospects

Postby fortissimo » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:15 pm

onthecusp wrote:
Renzo wrote:I still think that you have to be defective to end up unemployed out of HLS. And by defective I include unwilling to work outside of NYC, unwilling to look for jobs outside of OCI, and unwilling to work for $145k instead of $160k.


This. If you can't get a job out of Harvard, it's not because you don't have options; it's because you're being snobbish about the options you have.


Having a ton of low passes on your transcript isn't promising. (Although I think they got rid of it this past year.) I think a Harvard JD with bad grades (i.e. straight passes or low passes) can get "a job," just maybe not a legal job, especially now.

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Re: Harvard 3Ls Without Job Prospects

Postby soullesswonder » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:16 pm

fortissimo wrote:
onthecusp wrote:
Renzo wrote:I still think that you have to be defective to end up unemployed out of HLS. And by defective I include unwilling to work outside of NYC, unwilling to look for jobs outside of OCI, and unwilling to work for $145k instead of $160k.


This. If you can't get a job out of Harvard, it's not because you don't have options; it's because you're being snobbish about the options you have.


Having a ton of low passes on your transcript isn't promising. (Although I think they got rid of it this past year.) I think a Harvard JD with bad grades (i.e. straight passes or low passes) can get "a job," just maybe not a legal job, especially now.


LPs aren't mandatory, but they still exist. I doubt that in the future they will occur frequently enough to give a student more than one or two.

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Re: Harvard 3Ls Without Job Prospects

Postby fortissimo » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:18 pm

soullesswonder wrote:
fortissimo wrote:
onthecusp wrote:
Renzo wrote:I still think that you have to be defective to end up unemployed out of HLS. And by defective I include unwilling to work outside of NYC, unwilling to look for jobs outside of OCI, and unwilling to work for $145k instead of $160k.


This. If you can't get a job out of Harvard, it's not because you don't have options; it's because you're being snobbish about the options you have.


Having a ton of low passes on your transcript isn't promising. (Although I think they got rid of it this past year.) I think a Harvard JD with bad grades (i.e. straight passes or low passes) can get "a job," just maybe not a legal job, especially now.


LPs aren't mandatory, but they still exist. I doubt that in the future they will occur frequently enough to give a student more than one or two.


Alright, but having straight "passes" from Harvard can't look good either.

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Re: Harvard 3Ls Without Job Prospects

Postby toolfan » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:39 pm

Makes perfect sense. Why pay a HLS bottom 1/3 grad 145-160k when you can most likely hire a regional top 25 grad top 1/3 of class for 100k? (sorry for shorthand) It's a bad time for everyone. I can only imagine the number of senior associates severanced out for 20-somethings earning half their pay.

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Re: Harvard 3Ls Without Job Prospects

Postby DeepSeaLaw » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:51 pm

toolfan wrote:Makes perfect sense. Why pay a HLS bottom 1/3 grad 145-160k when you can most likely hire a regional top 25 grad top 1/3 of class for 100k? (sorry for shorthand) It's a bad time for everyone. I can only imagine the number of senior associates severanced out for 20-somethings earning half their pay.


Yes, this is how big law firms structure their pay scales.




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