Stupendous_Man wrote:No, because it's misleading to suggest UCI students have a 100% chance of getting a summer job than USC students because 100% of 60 students got a summer job. All you can safely say right now is that UCI was able to place 60 of its students in summer jobs. Everything else is just an assumption. Let's say for arguments sake there are 200 jobs in the country. If USC only places 50% of its students and UCI places 100% of its students, then USC claimed 50% of the jobs whereas UCI only got 30%. What happens if the number of jobs decreases? What happens when the number of UCI students increases? Percentages can be manipulated. Real numbers matter. Especially when you argue that 50% of its students took PI jobs.. The article says 30 students took PI jobs, and 17 took government jobs. So all you can really say is that UCI can place 13 people in firm jobs.
I'm not saying it's wrong or bad, 60/60 students employed is great. It just isn't the 100% employment rate it sounds like.
You're absolutely right about private firm jobs. There's no way of telling how UCI students will hold-up with private firms. Only time will tell, so it's not fair to speak in hypotheticals.
But in terms of employment, the current numbers suggest you have a much, much greater chance (at least in the short-term) of getting an immediate summer job out of UCI than you would out of USC.
In 5 or 10 years, who knows what UCI's employment rate will be. At the moment, though, I don't see the 2nd or probably 3rd year class struggling to find employment (just what kind of employment, though- as you've rightly noted- is a different matter altogether).
To only say UCI was able to place 60 students, disregarding the 100% aspect of it, is understating your prospects of getting a job. At USC or any other school, who knows where you'll place? At UCI, who cares where you'll place (again, this is only pertinent for the next year or two. The distant future is unknown)? You are one
of the 60 students that comprise the 100%. I know a UCLA 2L that can't find a summer job for the life of him (good student, too).
In summary, I totally understand and respect your point, but I think we're arguing slightly different things here (type of job, present vs. future, etc.).