Top Placing Classes (NLJ250 and Federal Clerkships)

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Re: Top Placing Classes (NLJ250 and Federal Clerkships)

Postby d34d9823 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:47 pm

RVP11 wrote:
The Brainalist wrote:
twistedwrister wrote:Yale's employment data from 2007-2009: http://www.law.yale.edu/studentlife/cdoprospectivestudentstats.htm

2007: 41% clerkships, 3.2% academia
2008: 35% clerkships, 2.6% academia
2009: 30% clerkships, 0.5% academia



This kind of variance from year to year really highlights how bad it is to combine two different years of data as the OP did. This thread needs to die, and someone (not me) needs to do another thread using only info from the same years.


Variance from year to year is exactly why you combine stats from different years.

No, it makes the data meaningless. If you want to trend over time, you should do this for each year.

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Re: Top Placing Classes (NLJ250 and Federal Clerkships)

Postby Grizz » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:49 pm

columbia86 wrote:
rad law wrote:
columbia86 wrote:In this survey W&L outperformed its current USNWR ranking, is this indicative of its current NLJ250/Federal Clerkship placement?


No. Probably much worse.


Explain.


c/o 2009 did OCI back when the economy was still good, in 2007.

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Re: Top Placing Classes (NLJ250 and Federal Clerkships)

Postby columbia86 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:50 pm

ndirish2010 wrote:
columbia86 wrote:
rad law wrote:
columbia86 wrote:In this survey W&L outperformed its current USNWR ranking, is this indicative of its current NLJ250/Federal Clerkship placement?


No. Probably much worse.


Explain.


Every school is much worse?


Obviously every school has suffered ITE, I was alluding to its performance relative to other schools.

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Re: Top Placing Classes (NLJ250 and Federal Clerkships)

Postby The Brainalist » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:45 am

d34dluk3 wrote:
RVP11 wrote:
The Brainalist wrote:quote="twistedwrister" -
Yale's employment data from 2007-2009: http://www.law.yale.edu/studentlife/cdoprospectivestudentstats.htm

2007: 41% clerkships, 3.2% academia
2008: 35% clerkships, 2.6% academia
2009: 30% clerkships, 0.5% academia - endquote


This kind of variance from year to year really highlights how bad it is to combine two different years of data as the OP did. This thread needs to die, and someone (not me) needs to do another thread using only info from the same years.


Variance from year to year is exactly why you combine stats from different years.

No, it makes the data meaningless. If you want to trend over time, you should do this for each year.
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Right. Envision it this way. Hypothetically:

2008 NLJ placement Yale = 60%
2008 clerking placement Yale = 40%
Total: 100%

2009 NLJ placement Yale = 65%
2009 clerking placement Yale = 35%
Total: 100%

OP took a 2008 placement for Clerking and added it to 2009 placement in NLJ. Congratulations Yale. You have 105% employment (though, according to TLS groupthink the exact right employment figure for Yale).



This thread needs to die.
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Re: Top Placing Classes (NLJ250 and Federal Clerkships)

Postby TheThreader » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:58 pm

cant wait to see this years

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Re: Top Placing Classes (NLJ250 and Federal Clerkships)

Postby showNprove » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:38 am

Edited to update the clerkship data. The list now reflects 2009 NLJ250 placement and 2009 Art. III clerkship placement.

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Re: Top Placing Classes (NLJ250 and Federal Clerkships)

Postby Attorney » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:45 am

This would be more useful with a little extra work to include say 2007 or 2008. I realize those classes were not ITE, but 2009 was a huge (positive) anomaly in relative rankings for Northwestern, UVA, and Vanderbilt (and, just looking at the numbers, probably for Stanford relative to Harvard and Yale?). When 2010 clerkship placements come out, a combined 2009-2010 list would become much more relevant.

showNprove wrote:1. Stanford - 78.1%
2. Harvard - 65.7%
3. Northwestern - 64.0%
4. Virginia - 63.8%
5. Columbia - 62.4%
6. Yale - 62.3%
7. Chicago - 62.1%
8. Michigan - 62.0%
9. Duke - 61.8%
10. Penn - 61.2%
11. Berkeley - 59.0%
12. NYU - 58.1%
13. Vanderbilt - 57.1%
14. Georgetown - 48.1%
15. Cornell - 47.5%
16. USC - 45.3%
17. Texas - 44.6%
18. UCLA - 41.8%
19. Boston College - 38.9%
20. Boston University - 38.1%




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