Top Placing Classes (NLJ250 and Federal Clerkships) Forum

[d34d9823]

Yale's employment data from 2007-2009: http://www.law.yale.edu/studentlife/cdo ... tstats.htm

2007: 41% clerkships, 3.2% academia
2008: 35% clerkships, 2.6% academia
2009: 30% clerkships, 0.5% academia

This kind of variance from year to year really highlights how bad it is to combine two different years of data as the OP did. This thread needs to die, and someone (not me) needs to do another thread using only info from the same years.

Variance from year to year is exactly why you combine stats from different years.

No, it makes the data meaningless. If you want to trend over time, you should do this for each year.

[Grizz]

In this survey W&L outperformed its current USNWR ranking, is this indicative of its current NLJ250/Federal Clerkship placement?

No. Probably much worse.

Explain.

c/o 2009 did OCI back when the economy was still good, in 2007.

[columbia86]

In this survey W&L outperformed its current USNWR ranking, is this indicative of its current NLJ250/Federal Clerkship placement?

No. Probably much worse.

Explain.

Every school is much worse?

Obviously every school has suffered ITE, I was alluding to its performance relative to other schools.

[The Brainalist]

quote="twistedwrister" -
Yale's employment data from 2007-2009: http://www.law.yale.edu/studentlife/cdo ... tstats.htm

2007: 41% clerkships, 3.2% academia
2008: 35% clerkships, 2.6% academia
2009: 30% clerkships, 0.5% academia - endquote


This kind of variance from year to year really highlights how bad it is to combine two different years of data as the OP did. This thread needs to die, and someone (not me) needs to do another thread using only info from the same years.

Variance from year to year is exactly why you combine stats from different years.

No, it makes the data meaningless. If you want to trend over time, you should do this for each year.

[/quote]

Right. Envision it this way. Hypothetically:

2008 NLJ placement Yale = 60%
2008 clerking placement Yale = 40%
Total: 100%

2009 NLJ placement Yale = 65%
2009 clerking placement Yale = 35%
Total: 100%

OP took a 2008 placement for Clerking and added it to 2009 placement in NLJ. Congratulations Yale. You have 105% employment (though, according to TLS groupthink the exact right employment figure for Yale).



This thread needs to die.

[TheThreader]

cant wait to see this years

[showNprove]

Edited to update the clerkship data. The list now reflects 2009 NLJ250 placement and 2009 Art. III clerkship placement.

[Attorney]

This would be more useful with a little extra work to include say 2007 or 2008. I realize those classes were not ITE, but 2009 was a huge (positive) anomaly in relative rankings for Northwestern, UVA, and Vanderbilt (and, just looking at the numbers, probably for Stanford relative to Harvard and Yale?). When 2010 clerkship placements come out, a combined 2009-2010 list would become much more relevant.

1. Stanford - 78.1%
2. Harvard - 65.7%
3. Northwestern - 64.0%
4. Virginia - 63.8%
5. Columbia - 62.4%
6. Yale - 62.3%
7. Chicago - 62.1%
8. Michigan - 62.0%
9. Duke - 61.8%
10. Penn - 61.2%
11. Berkeley - 59.0%
12. NYU - 58.1%
13. Vanderbilt - 57.1%
14. Georgetown - 48.1%
15. Cornell - 47.5%
16. USC - 45.3%
17. Texas - 44.6%
18. UCLA - 41.8%
19. Boston College - 38.9%
20. Boston University - 38.1%