The Brainalist wrote:Actually it is just an illustration, landing jobs is not anything at all like putting an orange ball into a ten-foot tall basket, unless that is part of your interview process.
Actually, it isn't just an illustration. An illustration that is not also an analogy would have to describe a circumstance that "illustrates" a general point without making reference to an alternate subject (such as basketball) which--for the purpose of discussion--is supposed to be analogous to the case at hand. As you note, basketball isn't a very analogy for comparing job placement stats.
I'm not talking about leiter's 15 firms thing. I don't find that very compelling either. Just the broader ones, the NLJ250, district and appellate and supreme court clerkships.
The NLJ250 isn't even trying to do the same thing as the Leiter study, and is simply an entirely different topic. The Leiter numbers attempted to measure how law schools place at the most elite firms. Listing off the entire NLJ250 is more like just asking how much of the class chose to work at big law firms, both those that are especially prestigious and those that are not. I have trouble really understanding how useful that info would be for trying to compare relatively similar institutions.
Supreme court clerkship numbers aren't very good because there are so few clerks and so many judges hire from institutions they favor without worrying too much about wading through all the qualified applicants. Chicago's supreme court placement is impressive, but it would probably be a mistake to read too much into schools that don't put a lot of clerks on the supreme court despite their reputation otherwise.
Now appellate clerkships are something Chicago really does shine in, and the institution has a right to be proud of that. I tend to think of this as related to their academic placement which has also been exceptional, and I think legitimately better than their peer institutions. If you want to be a legal academic Chicago is an outstanding place to go, probably better than Columbia or NYU and possibly better than Stanford.
Where Chicago doesn't shine currently is in government work and public interest. The new dean they hired from UCLA is apparently making this a priority, and I expect them to improve quite a bit. I don't fully understand why they don't seem to do as well in that, but I suspect part of their problem is a limited LRAP and perhaps they could also use just a bit of encouragement to their students who are interested in pursuing that path.
You see, basketball is nothing like law schools. It is an illustration not an analogy.
If I drew a picture of a basketball team and saw "this is an illustration of a law faculty" I wonder what you would make of that?
The USNWR reputation scores are sampling, but if memory serves the academic one gets more responses than the legal one, and maybe the had to average it over three years or something.
The academic one is probably more reliable than the other, but if I remember the data either a whole bunch of SCCN are tied or the differences between them are VERY small.