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Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:04 pm
by plum
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Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:10 pm
by plum
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Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:51 pm
by jawsthegreat
If you go to Duke I promise you are going to a great school you might like.

if you go to UVA I promise you are going to a great school that you WILL LOVE.

QOL>marginal differences between the two schools

/thread

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:50 pm
by quakeroats
jawsthegreat wrote:If you go to Duke I promise you are going to a great school you might like.

if you go to UVA I promise you are going to a great school that you WILL LOVE.

QOL>marginal differences between the two schools

/thread
QOL-wise:

1. The Triangle has the best specialty food shop in the United States (A Southern Season). Our restaurants are regularly and deservedly reviewed by the NY Times. We have some of the best bars I've ever been to (Founder's Breakfast Stout is on tap).

2. Our arts scene is really good. Uchida, Emerson, Schiff, Hamelin, Gergiev, etc. are all here this season.

3. We play basketball pretty well.

4. We have 1.7 million people in what's widely considered to be some of the best suburban living in the country to Charlottesville's 40,000 people 70 miles from anywhere.

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:24 am
by AreJay711
quakeroats wrote:
jawsthegreat wrote:If you go to Duke I promise you are going to a great school you might like.

if you go to UVA I promise you are going to a great school that you WILL LOVE.

QOL>marginal differences between the two schools

/thread
QOL-wise:

1. The Triangle has the best specialty food shop in the United States (A Southern Season). Our restaurants are regularly and deservedly reviewed by the NY Times. We have some of the best bars I've ever been to (Founder's Breakfast Stout is on tap).

2. Our arts scene is really good. Uchida, Emerson, Schiff, Hamelin, Gergiev, etc. are all here this season.

3. We play basketball pretty well.

4. We have 1.7 million people in what's widely considered to be some of the best suburban living in the country to Charlottesville's 40,000 people 70 miles from anywhere.
I can see where your are coming from but just to show that it it's still a matter of personal preference:

1) I'm a cheap bastard 2) Idk whom you are referring to 3) Basketball isn't my thing 4) Good point but I can see how this can possibly make UVA students bond together more.

Still don't know which one I'd pick between the two. Hopefully I'll be able to see them both on admitted students weekend.

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:30 am
by beachbum
FWIW, I find the social scene/student body/surrounding area at Duke much more appealing than at UVA. Different strokes, I guess.

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:23 am
by UnTouChablE
Duke is ridiculous with that 100% employment shit, go to UVA at least they are honest bout it.

Just to add to the pro-UVA Law side:

At UVA law they know how to have fun (as far as top law students go), Duke Law not so much.

(Scale fully tips in UVA law favor)

Go to UVA!

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:32 am
by sundance95
Things we can all agree on:

1) Both schools will give you a great chance if you perform well.
2) If you find quakeroats' methodology convincing, you won't have to worry about #1.

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:41 am
by pelmen74
UnTouChablE wrote:Duke is ridiculous with that 100% employment shit, go to UVA at least they are honest bout it.

Just to add to the pro-UVA Law side:

At UVA law they know how to have fun (as far as top law students go), Duke Law not so much.

(Scale fully tips in UVA law favor)

Go to UVA!
Technically, everyone at Duke does get a job. Duke pays employers to hire students who are at the bottom of their respective class. If anything, that should be a boon: if you go to Duke, you are guaranteed some kind of crappy legal employment, no matter how terribly you fail at school.

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:40 pm
by UnTouChablE
pelmen74 wrote:
UnTouChablE wrote:Duke is ridiculous with that 100% employment shit, go to UVA at least they are honest bout it.

Just to add to the pro-UVA Law side:

At UVA law they know how to have fun (as far as top law students go), Duke Law not so much.

(Scale fully tips in UVA law favor)

Go to UVA!
Technically, everyone at Duke does get a job. Duke pays employers to hire students who are at the bottom of their respective class. If anything, that should be a boon: if you go to Duke, you are guaranteed some kind of crappy legal employment, no matter how terribly you fail at school.

I see what you did there, touche sir. +1 reason to go to Duke.

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:27 pm
by Reedie
Sweet! I'm glad to see some UVA Duke animosity. For two schools so geographically close together and with such similar academic profiles, there really ought to be more ridiculous trolling/rivalry over pedantic and trivial issues. For the record I think Oats' data is interesting, but that it's important not to overestimate the fidelity of the underlying information. Comparing is tough. But don't just discount it because it's in a spreadsheet. (FWIW I know several economists who love excel, so maybe using it doesn't automatically disqualify data? :)).

Seriously though, go where you will be happiest. Happiness is not only good in itself, but is likely to lead you to do better in law school.

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:38 pm
by Bosque
Ok the UVA trolls need to chill too. Duke and UVA are peers. No one is making a terrible decision by picking one over the other, or vice versa. Let's just leave it at that and try and discuss what makes each of our schools good without bashing on the other. (Such as accusations about Duke's QoL or that we "don't know how to have fun." If anyone says that, they have not met us I promise you.) If you are going to draw a direct comparison anywhere, back it up with fact. If not, just leave it alone.

And for the record, QoL here is fantastic. I don't know what it is like at UVA, but I know that if you come here you will love it to death just like the rest of us. And there is a chance you might get Joseph Blocher for Constitutional Law, which would be worth the price of admission all by itself.

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:40 pm
by Bosque
AreJay711 wrote:
quakeroats wrote:
jawsthegreat wrote:If you go to Duke I promise you are going to a great school you might like.

if you go to UVA I promise you are going to a great school that you WILL LOVE.

QOL>marginal differences between the two schools

/thread
QOL-wise:

1. The Triangle has the best specialty food shop in the United States (A Southern Season). Our restaurants are regularly and deservedly reviewed by the NY Times. We have some of the best bars I've ever been to (Founder's Breakfast Stout is on tap).

2. Our arts scene is really good. Uchida, Emerson, Schiff, Hamelin, Gergiev, etc. are all here this season.

3. We play basketball pretty well.

4. We have 1.7 million people in what's widely considered to be some of the best suburban living in the country to Charlottesville's 40,000 people 70 miles from anywhere.
I can see where your are coming from but just to show that it it's still a matter of personal preference:

1) I'm a cheap bastard 2) Idk whom you are referring to 3) Basketball isn't my thing 4) Good point but I can see how this can possibly make UVA students bond together more.

Still don't know which one I'd pick between the two. Hopefully I'll be able to see them both on admitted students weekend.
Like baseball? Durham Bulls?

What do you like? What would you be looking for in a place to live?

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:43 pm
by Reedie
Bosque wrote: And there is a chance you might get Joseph Blocher for Constitutional Law, which would be worth the price of admission all by itself.
Blocher brings a ton of energy to conlaw everyday and that is nice. QOL here is nice. It's an urban area with good choices of food/bars/etc... (not NYC or anything, but good for its size) AND its quite cheap to live here. Biking to the law school is a snap. I'm 2 miles from the law school door to door, I have no roommate and my rent is a joke. (note: I lived on the westside of LA previously so rent jokes I find funny may be less amusing to the reader).

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:53 pm
by Bosque
Reedie wrote:
Bosque wrote: And there is a chance you might get Joseph Blocher for Constitutional Law, which would be worth the price of admission all by itself.
Blocher brings a ton of energy to conlaw everyday and that is nice. QOL here is nice. It's an urban area with good choices of food/bars/etc... (not NYC or anything, but good for its size) AND its quite cheap to live here. Biking to the law school is a snap. I'm 2 miles from the law school door to door, I have no roommate and my rent is a joke. (note: I lived on the westside of LA previously so rent jokes I find funny may be less amusing to the reader).
Oh my god, rent! Hell yah, the low rent is a huge plus.

For example, I am sharing a gigantic house with two other law students. My personal space is bigger than my first appartment (which I also shared with two roommates) and includes my own bed room, bath room, study, breakfast nook/mini kitchen, den, and pool room (with a pool table the owners left here). And that is just my personal space, that is not even counting the common area (i.e the real kitchen, dinning room, living room, laundry room, drunk people storage extra bedrooms). I think the house is like 5,000 square feet or some ridiculous number. The rent is peanuts.

I am sure Charlottesville has reasonable rent too, but rent here is fantastic.

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:55 pm
by quakeroats
Bosque wrote:
Reedie wrote:
Bosque wrote: And there is a chance you might get Joseph Blocher for Constitutional Law, which would be worth the price of admission all by itself.
Blocher brings a ton of energy to conlaw everyday and that is nice. QOL here is nice. It's an urban area with good choices of food/bars/etc... (not NYC or anything, but good for its size) AND its quite cheap to live here. Biking to the law school is a snap. I'm 2 miles from the law school door to door, I have no roommate and my rent is a joke. (note: I lived on the westside of LA previously so rent jokes I find funny may be less amusing to the reader).
Oh my god, rent! Hell yah, the low rent is a huge plus.

For example, I am sharing a gigantic house with two other law students. My personal space is bigger than my first appartment (which I also shared with two roommates) and includes my own bed room, bath room, study, breakfast nook/mini kitchen, den, and pool room (with a pool table the owners left here). And that is just my personal space, that is not even counting the common area (i.e the real kitchen, dinning room, living room, laundry room, drunk people storage extra bedrooms). I think the house is like 5,000 square feet or some ridiculous number. The rent is peanuts.

I am sure Charleston has reasonable rent too, but rent here is fantastic.
It's all relative at UVA. :wink:

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:00 pm
by Bosque
quakeroats wrote:
It's all relative at UVA. :wink:
Crap. I fixed it. Sorry, I had South Carolina on the brain.

Re: UVA vs. Duke

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:19 pm
by quakeroats
Bosque wrote:
quakeroats wrote:
It's all relative at UVA. :wink:
Crap. I fixed it. Sorry, I had South Carolina on the brain.
The other Charleston is funnier.