t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby Blindmelon » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:04 pm

holydonkey wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
holydonkey wrote:
+1 If Vandy is a regional school, that region includes about 25% of the United States.


25% of the US that has no large legal markets.


Class of 2009 Employment at Graduation by Geography
Northeast 26.6%
West/Southwest 14.4%
South 43.0%
International 2.7%
Midwest 13.3%

It sucks that the 40% of Vandy's class that work in the Northeast and West have no access to large legal markets.


This geographical distribution of graduates is very similar to BU/ND. This doesn't help the idea that T17 is "considerably" better than BU/ND, etc. They seem to have the same mobility, same firm prospects. I concede that clerking is easier out of Vand/UT, but they also have less competition in their area. BU/BC gets trounced by Harvard/Yale/Cornell, etc. because clerking in the MA/NY region is ridiculously competitive.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby 09042014 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:17 pm

holydonkey wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
holydonkey wrote:
+1 If Vandy is a regional school, that region includes about 25% of the United States.


25% of the US that has no large legal markets.


Class of 2009 Employment at Graduation by Geography
Northeast 26.6%
West/Southwest 14.4%
South 43.0%
International 2.7%
Midwest 13.3%

It sucks that the 40% of Vandy's class that work in the Northeast and West have no access to large legal markets.


Some of it is the top of the class that is nationally mobile but most of that is people slinking back home after failing to get big law.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby holydonkey » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:21 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
holydonkey wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
holydonkey wrote:
+1 If Vandy is a regional school, that region includes about 25% of the United States.


25% of the US that has no large legal markets.


Class of 2009 Employment at Graduation by Geography
Northeast 26.6%
West/Southwest 14.4%
South 43.0%
International 2.7%
Midwest 13.3%

It sucks that the 40% of Vandy's class that work in the Northeast and West have no access to large legal markets.


Some of it is the top of the class that is nationally mobile but most of that is people slinking back home after failing to get big law.


Dude, I think the NU acceptance has gone to your head. You used to be cool. :P

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby 09042014 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:25 pm

holydonkey wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
holydonkey wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
25% of the US that has no large legal markets.


Class of 2009 Employment at Graduation by Geography
Northeast 26.6%
West/Southwest 14.4%
South 43.0%
International 2.7%
Midwest 13.3%

It sucks that the 40% of Vandy's class that work in the Northeast and West have no access to large legal markets.


Some of it is the top of the class that is nationally mobile but most of that is people slinking back home after failing to get big law.


Dude, I think the NU acceptance has gone to your head. You used to be cool. :P


Don't worry, I won't be slinking back home after I fail to get big law because I'm already going to be home. But I'll still be working shit law.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby booboo » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:28 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
holydonkey wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
holydonkey wrote:Class of 2009 Employment at Graduation by Geography
Northeast 26.6%
West/Southwest 14.4%
South 43.0%
International 2.7%
Midwest 13.3%

It sucks that the 40% of Vandy's class that work in the Northeast and West have no access to large legal markets.


Some of it is the top of the class that is nationally mobile but most of that is people slinking back home after failing to get big law.


Dude, I think the NU acceptance has gone to your head. You used to be cool. :P


Don't worry, I won't be slinking back home after I fail to get big law because I'm already going to be home. But I'll still be working shit law.


This is what BP has done to him/her.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby Alexandria » Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:05 pm

tamlyric wrote:
doopwooper wrote:How about GW with $105,000, vs Georgetown at sticker? Is this an obvious choice?


I would vote for GW in this case. Fwiw.


Me too. This is only a teensy bit of anecdotal evidence, but I worked at a very highly ranked DC firm this summer, and my class had an equivalent number of GW and G students (actually one more GW). My impression is that G and GW are roughly equal in employers' eyes.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby doopwooper » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:37 pm

Well I just found out I got into UVA, no scholarships. Now compared to GWU with the $105,500, what would you chose?

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby Joga Bonito » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:41 pm

doopwooper wrote:Well I just found out I got into UVA, no scholarships. Now compared to GWU with the $105,500, what would you chose?


UVA all the way.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby im_blue » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:48 pm

doopwooper wrote:Well I just found out I got into UVA, no scholarships. Now compared to GWU with the $105,500, what would you chose?


If you want biglaw, UVA.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby doopwooper » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:07 pm

Yeah, something about moving to mid-Virginia though just really puts me off. I'm really happy I got in, it's just not some place I can see myself moving. It's 100 miles from DC, and I was concerned that DC would not be lively enough.. hah.
UVA is such a good school. I wouldn't want to be stupid and base my decision off of location alone, but I also want to make sure that it is still the more rational decision even if my debt will be more than twice as much.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby vanwinkle » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:14 pm

doopwooper wrote:Well I just found out I got into UVA, no scholarships. Now compared to GWU with the $105,500, what would you chose?

I chose UVA. PM'd you details.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby jocelyne » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:16 pm

It really depends...I was thinking of whether to choose GULC sticker vs Boston $$ but it was an easy choice for Boston. But then again, I don't want to take out $200,000 in debt. Good luck in whatever you decide...

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby doopwooper » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:39 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
doopwooper wrote:Well I just found out I got into UVA, no scholarships. Now compared to GWU with the $105,500, what would you chose?

I chose UVA. PM'd you details.

Thank you very much for you message, I appreciate you taking the time to help me in my decision! I will respond more thoroughly to it when I get the time!

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby Legalite » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:30 pm

Is there a big difference, say between BU $$$ and Cornell/GULC sticker?

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby JusticeHarlan » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:13 pm

Legalite wrote:Is there a big difference, say between BU $$$ and Cornell/GULC sticker?

Would you rather practice in Boston, NYC, or DC?

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby Legalite » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:43 pm

I don't mind any...but probably Boston since I don't like big cities :)

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby englawyer » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:41 am

Legalite wrote:I don't mind any...but probably Boston since I don't like big cities :)


then go BU $$$ IMO

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby chadwick218 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:57 am

For me, I would take the bottom T-14 at sticker over T-20 with significant money with the exceptions of UT, UCLA, USC, and Vandy. Under no circumstances would I be willing to touch WUSTL if admitted to a T-14 and would only consider attending Minnesota if I wanted to practice regionally.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby chadwick218 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:57 am

For me, I would take the bottom T-14 at sticker over T-20 with significant money with the exceptions of UT, UCLA, USC, and Vandy. Under no circumstances would I be willing to touch WUSTL if admitted to a T-14 and would only consider attending Minnesota if I wanted to practice regionally.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby Blindmelon » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:22 pm

chadwick218 wrote:For me, I would take the bottom T-14 at sticker over T-20 with significant money with the exceptions of UT, UCLA, USC, and Vandy. Under no circumstances would I be willing to touch WUSTL if admitted to a T-14 and would only consider attending Minnesota if I wanted to practice regionally.


Erm. Aren't TX and UCLA pretty regional too? But I guess you like those regions?

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby chadwick218 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:36 pm

Blindmelon wrote:
chadwick218 wrote:For me, I would take the bottom T-14 at sticker over T-20 with significant money with the exceptions of UT, UCLA, USC, and Vandy. Under no circumstances would I be willing to touch WUSTL if admitted to a T-14 and would only consider attending Minnesota if I wanted to practice regionally.


Erm. Aren't TX and UCLA pretty regional too? But I guess you like those regions?


Precisely! Also, the undergrads are much less bundled up for most of the year!

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby JOThompson » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:05 pm

Vandy or T25 with $$$?

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby chadwick218 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:07 pm

JOThompson wrote:Vandy or T25 with $$$?


Which T-25? Also, if you have $$$ at a T-25, you are likely to pull some money out of Vandy.

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby JOThompson » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:12 pm

Iowa $$$ or half tuition at Minnesota. I was lucky to get those offers based on my middling LSAT, and I'm on the Vandy waitlist now, so I don't know if they'll give me any merit aid. I'm just trying to decide if I should play the WL game there :P

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Re: t14 sticker or t20 with $$$

Postby Stringer Bell » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:21 pm

JOThompson wrote:Iowa $$$ or half tuition at Minnesota. I was lucky to get those offers based on my middling LSAT, and I'm on the Vandy waitlist now, so I don't know if they'll give me any merit aid. I'm just trying to decide if I should play the WL game there :P


Vandy ITE.




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