Top15-30 2011 US News Predicitons

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Top15-30 2011 US News Predicitons

Postby pennstatepride » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:07 pm

What do TLS posters predict the 2011 US News law ranks for schools in the 15-30 range?

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Postby lawschooliseasy » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:08 pm

pennstatepride wrote:What do TLS posters predict the 2011 US News law ranks for schools in the 15-30 range?


Cooley #1!!!

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Postby vanwinkle » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:09 pm

I predict GULC will be in it. :twisted:

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Postby Panther7 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:11 pm

indiana doesn't drop like everyone claims it will.

their schollies are getting people with numbers to go there.

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Postby Big Shrimpin » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:13 pm

vanwinkle wrote:I predict GULC will be in it. :twisted:



haha

i cant wait until the full gamut of "2011USNWR-predctions" thread season begins! ahh how i love tls

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Postby letsdoit1982 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:14 pm

When are the rankings expected to come out?

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Postby vanwinkle » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:15 pm

letsdoit1982 wrote:When are the rankings expected to come out?

About two days after everyone gives up trying to predict what will happen in them.

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Postby pennstatepride » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:15 pm

I think there is a lot to look forward to/predict; such as 1) will Illinois drop due to their scandal 2) will GW have corrected their PT numbers and thus propel themselves back into the T20-T25 3) and the GULC thing.

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Postby DGLitcH » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:44 pm

pennstatepride wrote:I think there is a lot to look forward to/predict; such as 1) will Illinois drop due to their scandal 2) will GW have corrected their PT numbers and thus propel themselves back into the T20-T25 3) and the GULC thing.


I haven't been following but what happened to Illinois and GULC to warrant the changes?

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Postby Flanker1067 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:48 pm

vanwinkle wrote:I predict GULC will be in it. :twisted:


Can someone explain to me why GULC is considered the weakest of the T14. I know its at no. 14 but I thought that was a result of them having a large part time program that in effect hurts thier ranking but has little to no effect on the important things (i.e. Job prospects). On top of this, it seems harder to gain acceptance to Gtown than Cornell, which should be a factor. Plus, I am hearing lots of bad things about Cornell job placement this year. Personally, I get the sense Cornell should drop out before Gtown. I have no basis other then what I have said here, so feel free to tell me why I am wrong.

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Postby vanwinkle » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:49 pm

DGLitcH wrote:
pennstatepride wrote:I think there is a lot to look forward to/predict; such as 1) will Illinois drop due to their scandal 2) will GW have corrected their PT numbers and thus propel themselves back into the T20-T25 3) and the GULC thing.

I haven't been following but what happened to Illinois and GULC to warrant the changes?

Illnois: Major scandal involving the school agreeing to make political acceptances of unqualified students in exchange for promises of jobs for graduates in the governor's office. Could potentially impact the school's peer and judge rankings, which I guess could affect their USNWR ranking. However, I would not expect major movement.

GULC: Considered every year to be the most likely to drop out of the T14, should a school just below it manage to improve even slightly. Discussion then turns to which school would dethrone it, with UCLA, Texas, Vandy, and USC all considered candidates for this upset. Nothing new here, this is perennial speculation.

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Re: Top15-30 2011 US News Predicitons

Postby vanwinkle » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:50 pm

Flanker1067 wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:I predict GULC will be in it. :twisted:


Can someone explain to me why GULC is considered the weakest of the T14. I know its at no. 14 but I thought that was a result of them having a large part time program that in effect hurts thier ranking but has little to no effect on the important things (i.e. Job prospects). On top of this, it seems harder to gain acceptance to Gtown than Cornell, which should be a factor. Plus, I am hearing lots of bad things about Cornell job placement this year. Personally, I get the sense Cornell should drop out before Gtown. I have no basis other then what I have said here, so feel free to tell me why I am wrong.

PT rankings have never been taken into effect until the most recent rankings. This was often considered to give GULC a silent boost since in prior years they could have a large PT program without it hurting them. It doesn't appear that adding in PT programs to the rankings changed anything though.

Also, it's largely because GULC is #14.

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Postby UFMatt » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:54 pm

Slight boost for Notre Dame given their new Dean and law building.

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Postby Shot007 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:19 pm

It will be interesting to see whether or not UC Irving cracks into the top 30....what does everyone think?

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Postby vanwinkle » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:20 pm

Shot007 wrote:It will be interesting to see whether or not UC Irving cracks into the top 30....what does everyone think?

They will not be ranked until they receive ABA accreditation. This is also why Drexel is not ranked yet.

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Postby forty-two » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:27 pm

I know that there is absolutely no way to know for sure, but does anyone have an opinion on Washington & Lee? It has historically been in the T25, but it fell to 30 last year. Does anyone think this indicates a major fall in the future, or should it be able to bounce back? I've just started to seriously consider it because of a way better than expected scholarship, but the drop makes me a little nervous.

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Re: Top15-30 2011 US News Predicitons

Postby holydonkey » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:30 pm

up = good, down = bad

UVA goes up (number whoring finally pays off)
Duke goes down
Vanderbilt goes up
Texas goes down
Indiana goes down
Notre Dame goes up
University of Iowa goes down
GW goes up

Ridiculous 5 way tie at #30 is broken with Fordham/Alabama/UW ahead of UNC/W&L.

Rutgers Camden down. Rutgers Newark up.
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Postby vanwinkle » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:30 pm

forty-two wrote:I know that there is absolutely no way to know for sure, but does anyone have an opinion on Washington & Lee? It has historically been in the T25, but it fell to 30 last year. Does anyone think this indicates a major fall in the future, or should it be able to bounce back? I've just started to seriously consider it because of a way better than expected scholarship, but the drop makes me a little nervous.

The huge scholarship is probably to help boost/maintain their LSAT median to prevent any further drop. 25 to 30 is not a huge drop, and they could easily move back up at least some.

However, the really important thing is that in that range, from #25 to #30 is not a huge drop. Either way it's still a regional school, and a pretty good one at that, but not a school that's going to have any kind of huge national relevance. It's outside the T14 but strong in its region, and will continue to be that way at either #25 or #30.

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Postby stratocophic » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:30 pm

vanwinkle wrote:I predict GULC will be in it. :twisted:

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Postby xanderdellus » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:33 pm

forty-two wrote:I know that there is absolutely no way to know for sure, but does anyone have an opinion on Washington & Lee? It has historically been in the T25, but it fell to 30 last year. Does anyone think this indicates a major fall in the future, or should it be able to bounce back? I've just started to seriously consider it because of a way better than expected scholarship, but the drop makes me a little nervous.


By waiving the application fee they will have a boost in apps and thus a great Selectivity rating.

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Re: Top15-30 2011 US News Predicitons

Postby Steven Perry » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:40 pm

Cornell is such an odd entry at #13. Obviously it's a good school, but it seems to have kind of a love/hate thing going on, at least around here. Their admission standards also seem to be the most lenient of the Top 14, especially when compared to Georgetown. It's hard to say what their destiny is going to be down the line, but their Ivy League status is probably enough to keep them in the low Top 14.

Any thoughts on Berkeley moving down?

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Re: Top15-30 2011 US News Predicitons

Postby Vincent Vega » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:45 pm

15. UCLA
16. Texas
17. Vanderbilt
18. USC
19. Emory
20. WashU
21. Notre Dame
22. BU
23. Minnesota
24. BC
25. Illinois
26. Indiana
27. GWU
28. Fordham
29. Iowa
30. W&M

There will be ties, of course, but I just ignored this in my ranking list.

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Re: Top15-30 2011 US News Predicitons

Postby Rand M. » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:48 pm

Steven Perry wrote:Any thoughts on Berkeley moving down?

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Postby 98234872348 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:51 pm

Rand M. wrote:
Steven Perry wrote:Any thoughts on Berkeley moving down?

Down to #15? Really?

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Postby Rand M. » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:55 pm

mistergoft wrote:
Rand M. wrote:
Steven Perry wrote:Any thoughts on Berkeley moving down?

Down to #15? Really?


Oh no, I think he meant (and I know I meant) out of the tie for 6th; restoring HYSCCN as the only T6. I forgot about the limitations put on the thread in the OP.




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