Series70 wrote:Just a few more items that came to mind, for what it's worth.
1) NYU offers a total of $1k more in summer aid for those seeking PI/gov internships ($4.5k 1L/$6.5k 2L vs. $4k and $6k at Columbia).
2) James B. Jacobs teaches Criminal Law to 1Ls at NYU. I'm a big fan of his work (although I guess it's all luck whether you get into his class or not). On the flip side, I've heard from Columbia students that they've had pretty dismal experiences with their 1L Crim Law profs.
3) Columbia has Constitutional Law as a mandatory Spring semester class for 1Ls. At NYU, it's an elective, which means you may not get it, since electives are awarded by lottery. I don't agree with that, since Con Law is especially important for those who want to intern with a USAO over the summer.
I'd be interested to hear from any NYU students about their experiences in Crim Law, getting Con Law as an elective, and, especially, doing pro-bono work during their 1L year. Thanks!
A couple of comments:
1) A minor point, but Columbia's stipend is actually $4,200 for 1L PI, and they allow you to supplement up to $5,200 - that is, if you get another $1,000 from another source (there are all sorts of outside fellowships) they won't reduce the amount you receive from Columbia.
2) I actually pretty strenuously disagree with this. Gerard Lynch, Debra Livingston, Jeffrey Fagan and James Liebman all teach 1L crim (Lynch and Liebman I think every year, Fagan and Livingston on and off). I have Lynch who is a 2nd circuit judge (which is a real treat with his anecdotes and stories), not to mention he has won the university-wide and law school-wide teaching prizes in the past. Probably one of the best professors I've had so far. Livingston is also a 2nd circuit judge, and from what I hear she's great. I have no idea how Liebman and Fagan are as teachers, but they wrote the seminal study on the inaccuracy of the death penalty that led several states to abolish or suspend it (http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/summary ... -s-liebman
Not sure what you've heard, but I suspect some people just don't like crim (it's very different from other subjects), rather than not liking their professors.
3) True, though some people debate the true usefulness of conlaw. You use it very little in real practice supposedly, and the parts you do use can be learned very quickly on the job.