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Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:43 pm
by chango
Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern paying 100% of years 2 and 3. Assume Entertainment Law focus and staying in Southern Cal to practice.

Re: Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:47 pm
by hans3n
Taking out the entertainment law part, go Southwestern. WITH the entertainment law in mind, its less of an obvious choice. I would probably still lean toward Southwestern. How much debt going to LLS v.s Southwestern? That should be taken into consideration heavily in my opinion

Re: Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:33 pm
by chango
hans3n wrote:Taking out the entertainment law part, go Southwestern. WITH the entertainment law in mind, its less of an obvious choice. I would probably still lean toward Southwestern. How much debt going to LLS v.s Southwestern? That should be taken into consideration heavily in my opinion



Really? I was under the impression that the Entertainment Law program at Southwestern is worth more than its ranking would suggest. Am I mistaken?

Final debt figures TBD, but for the sake of argument, let's say 90K at Loyola vs. 30K at Southwestern.

Re: Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:36 pm
by hans3n
I would say Southwestern then. I honestly don't know about Southwesterns entertainment Law program, I just know Loyolas is very good. If Southwestern has a good program, then definitely Southwestern. You would have to do some research into their program though.

Re: Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:38 pm
by ruleser
And your numbers are off, unless you have some $$$ you start with:
Loyola - 40k+/year tution, 25K books/COL/etc. = $195K
SW= 75K books/COL/etc, + whatever tuition is.

Re: Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:45 pm
by chango
ruleser wrote:And your numbers are off, unless you have some $$$ you start with:
Loyola - 40k+/year tution, 25K books/COL/etc. = $195K
SW= 75K books/COL/etc, + whatever tuition is.



Yeah, I'm starting off with some money, and I was only calculating "hard" costs.

Re: Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:51 pm
by ruleser
Ah, ok, well if you are talking total debt only 30K vs. 90K, I'd personally do Loyola. You have a shot a Big Law, if you do well you can transfer to T1 (saw someone transferred to Berkeley), and the job prospects in general are substantially better. But still either way is an ok call - ask around, I personally don't buy the 'entertainment law' thing. But check with a few firms around town. I'd see it harder to get into ent law out of SW since a lot of that is handled by Big Law, but don't know for sure...

Re: Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:55 pm
by Danteshek
I dunno dude. I'm in the top 10% at Southwestern this semester (pretty sure, 3.616 with one grade remaining). I may not have been able to pull that off at Loyola and that might have translated into poorer prospects for me. If the OP in interested in entertainment law, Southwestern definitely has the stronger program. Also the ability to take copyright as a 1L (which you can do at Southwestern) matters a lot in terms of getting externships that first summer.

Btw, the entertainment law externships are in the studios, not the big firms. There are lots of smaller offices in LA that practice entertainment law.

Re: Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:57 pm
by chango
Danteshek wrote:I dunno dude. I'm in the top 10% at Southwestern this semester. I may not have been able to pull that off at Loyola and that might have translated into poorer prospects for me. If the OP in interested in entertainment law, Southwestern definitely has the stronger program. Also the ability to take copyright as a 1L (which you can do at Southwestern) matters a lot in terms of getting externships that first summer.



Yeah, just sat in on the Copyright Law this morning and was VERY impressed.

Re: Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:53 pm
by eaters333
No offense to Southwestern but I work in the entertainment industry, via entertainment agency, and LMU is much stronger in terms of reputation.

Re: Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:19 am
by bconly
Having talked to everybody from agents to entertainment lawyers, Loyola has a much better rep than SW.

Re: Loyola Law at sticker vs. Southwestern with $$$

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:27 am
by saltoftheearth
Loyola