No, I called bullshit on your conversation.crackberry wrote:What? You called bullshit on a conversation I had. Explain to me how that is not absurd. Were you there for the conversation? Are you my alter-ego?kurama20 wrote:lol so no one knows what their talking about except you; classic TLS arrogance. You're trying to change your argument now. Earlier you actually stated that firms rather hire Yale AND Stanford students over Harvard one's because they "burn out". Let me point it out for you below. That's total FLAME. NYC hiring partners do not prefer Stanford grads to Harvard ones. Hell there was a guy on here who was actually an associate at a vault 10 in NYC who went so far as to say that they don't even prefer Yale grads to Harvard one's in biglaw, Yale just outdoes Harvard in academia and clerkships. There really isn't much of a difference between Columbia and Stanford for NYC biglaw either.
May I remind you that you said:That is just flat out wrong. Harvard is NOT king in legal academia OR clerkships. I grant you that HLS is king in BigLaw but only because YLS grads don't want BigLaw in the first place! If they did, it would be a different story.kurama20 wrote:You must be kidding. The truth is that Harvard is the king of legal academia along with Yale. When it comes to clerkships, firm placement, elite government, and things like Bristow fellowships Harvard is king.
The notion that HLS grads "burn out" on average compared to YLS and SLS grads seems too improbable for a real person to believe. No reasonable lawyer would actually buy the idea that graduates of individual schools are similar enough that there is a convenient, observable temperamental difference among them. It's not like buying a car or a computer, where a certain manufacturer has a process that produces a defect that is replicated in all the products. People go into these schools as individuals, and they come out as individuals. There are ultra competitive, backstabbing assholes at Yale and Stanford and fun loving, easygoing, nice people at Harvard and Columbia. Some from each school can hack long hard hours, some hate it and leave. The uniformity you speak of is pure fiction. I find it extremely hard to believe that a partner at a firm would actually believe that the people who come from Harvard are just defective and can't grind as long as the others. The abundance of Harvard educated partners at big law firms is pretty compelling evidence that it's an untenable position.
Even if you did have this conversation, the conclusion that this "partner" (his name is probably Tyler Durden or Keyser Soze) has drawn is ridiculous for the reasons cited above. I don't know why you would even try to perpetuate such a stupid claim. Don't be mistaken - I'm not disputing the fact that Yale is king for clerkships and academia, but I seriously don't buy this idea that firms only take the Harvard and Columbia grads as some kind of last resort because the oh so perfect Yale and Stanford grads won't come.
This is awesome. In fact, my love is very recent, not a childhood one 
Anyway, I was talking to a very good friend of mine from HLS last night - he's a serious talent with a bright future as a litigator. I didn't know but he also applied to some of the same divisions at DOJ but so far only one phone interview and was told by a couple others they're waiting on a decision - turns out they're waiting to hear from me, even though he applied a couple days earlier. But that one phone interview he had sounds very promising so he may yet get in - it would be so cool for two nerdy dudes from YLS and HLS to room together and intern at DOJ. 
