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 Post subject: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:09 pm 

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dahlia87 wrote:
Today, I got an email from the Law School Admissions Council saying that they received my request for my LSAT cancellation and they are confirming that it has been cancelled. The email also said the score will not be reinstated for any reason. I never requested for my score to be cancelled. FML


From Fmylife.com
http://www.fmylife.com/miscellaneous/6751692

Not really funny. Believe it or not?


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:11 pm 

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Kakarot wrote:
dahlia87 wrote:
Today, I got an email from the Law School Admissions Council saying that they received my request for my LSAT cancellation and they are confirming that it has been cancelled. The email also said the score will not be reinstated for any reason. I never requested for my score to be cancelled. FML


From Fmylife.com
http://www.fmylife.com/miscellaneous/6751692

Not really funny. Believe it or not?



I don't buy it.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:11 pm 

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How hard is it to cancel?? I have never looked into it.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:14 pm 

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Kakarot wrote:
How hard is it to cancel?? I have never looked into it.

I mean... you have to bubble two bubbles in and sign. Or contact them.

I've never heard of it just happening...


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:14 pm 

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BS. they wouldn't say, "would not be reinstated for any reason."


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:15 pm 

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Real or not, just thinking about that made my blood pressure shoot up.

I HOPE it's fake.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:25 pm 

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I call bullshit. This isn't a rinky dink operation. It's a professional organization that deals with some powerful institutions. It's also, from what I can tell, just as technologically advanced as, oh, every other organization on the planet. If this person really received such a message, he'd simply ask them to look at his answer sheet or demand proof of the letter he's supposed to send. I doubt LSAC has any reason to intentionally fuck with some random person.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:25 pm 

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Celibidache wrote:
BS. they wouldn't say, "would not be reinstated for any reason."

That's exactly what they say:

Code:
This e-mail acknowledges receipt of your request for a score cancellation and confirms that we have cancelled your LSAT score for the September2009 administration. Your score cannot be reinstated for any reason.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:33 pm 

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It seems very possible to do. I mean what steps do they do to verify it is the person? Does it just have to come from a certain e-mail or what? "Off to LSAC to see"


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:35 pm 

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I wouldn't be so positive about LSAC. Some enormous professional organizations with large operating budgets make silly mistakes like this. The real test of an organization is how easy it is to get them to fix such mistakes.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:37 pm 

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LSAC wrote:
2.Send a written cancellation request to LSAC after the test. Your written cancellation must be in the form of a signed fax; overnight letter; or expedited, mailed score cancellation form , which you can access on this website immediately following your test administration. Your request must be received within six calendar days of the test. If you do not receive confirmation of receipt of your request within four calendar days after your request was submitted, contact LSAC immediately. If your request has not been processed, you may submit proof that your request was received at LSAC within the required period. Documentation of proof of receipt will not be accepted beyond 14 calendar days after the test.


I could see a huge number of people being able to have cancelled my score if they wanted to commit forgery and make me really really mad.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:40 pm 

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Kakarot wrote:
How hard is it to cancel?? I have never looked into it.


You have to physically fax them the cancellation form...unless you physically bubbled in the two cancel bubbles on your answer sheet.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:45 pm 

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NayBoer wrote:
I wouldn't be so positive about LSAC. Some enormous professional organizations with large operating budgets make silly mistakes like this. The real test of an organization is how easy it is to get them to fix such mistakes.


If it's a mistake, which is entirely understandable if that's the case, then it should be easy to fix. As I said, this person simply has to demand to see the answer sheet or the form he was supposed to send in. It's that easy. And considering LSAC doesn't have much reason to deny some random person from having a score, I doubt they'd fight him on this.

So again, I call bullshit.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:47 pm 

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TheLuckyOne wrote:
Celibidache wrote:
BS. they wouldn't say, "would not be reinstated for any reason."

That's exactly what they say:

Code:
This e-mail acknowledges receipt of your request for a score cancellation and confirms that we have cancelled your LSAT score for the September2009 administration. Your score cannot be reinstated for any reason.


LSAC seems pretty sure score cannot be reinstated for any reason.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:51 pm 

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I hope it is real.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:52 pm 

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b.j. wrote:

As I said, this person simply has to demand to see the answer sheet or the form he was supposed to send in.

So again, I call bullshit.


LSAC can pretty easy get away with this as well (if they really wanted to avoid some sort of scandal and it was already too late to recover the score)... bubble in two ovals into his/her scantron and have a proof. Oh well, bad situation :?


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:03 pm 

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TheLuckyOne wrote:
b.j. wrote:

As I said, this person simply has to demand to see the answer sheet or the form he was supposed to send in.

So again, I call bullshit.


LSAC can pretty easy get away with this as well (if they really wanted to avoid some sort of scandal and it was already too late to recover the score)... bubble in two ovals into his/her scantron and have a proof. Oh well, bad situation :?


But again, why would they want to do this? You are assuming there's some sort of plot against this person. Why would there be?


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:13 pm 

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NayBoer wrote:
I wouldn't be so positive about LSAC. Some enormous professional organizations with large operating budgets make silly mistakes like this. The real test of an organization is how easy it is to get them to fix such mistakes.

Dude. To underscore this point: ETS mis-scanned a bunch of tests back in October '06 (or maybe '07, I forget) and gave a thousands of students the wrong SAT scores, then tried to cover it up for months. AAMC managed to give med school applicants the wrong information about the tools that would be available on the first computer-based MCAT back in January '07 and how the tools would function, and while they were at it, gave students the wrong set of questions for a given passage (i.e. the questions on the right were not for the passage on the left but for a completely different, inaccessible passage). LSAC is known as a very good test-making company because they don't screw up very much, but everybody screws up sometimes.

So is it true? Heck if I know. But those of you who are saying that it's impossible, well, I don't think it's impossible.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:22 pm 

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TheLuckyOne wrote:
Celibidache wrote:
BS. they wouldn't say, "would not be reinstated for any reason."

That's exactly what they say:

Code:
This e-mail acknowledges receipt of your request for a score cancellation and confirms that we have cancelled your LSAT score for the September2009 administration. Your score cannot be reinstated for any reason.


really? wow. that's ridiculous


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:38 pm 

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tomwatts wrote:
NayBoer wrote:
I wouldn't be so positive about LSAC. Some enormous professional organizations with large operating budgets make silly mistakes like this. The real test of an organization is how easy it is to get them to fix such mistakes.

Dude. To underscore this point: ETS mis-scanned a bunch of tests back in October '06 (or maybe '07, I forget) and gave a thousands of students the wrong SAT scores, then tried to cover it up for months. AAMC managed to give med school applicants the wrong information about the tools that would be available on the first computer-based MCAT back in January '07 and how the tools would function, and while they were at it, gave students the wrong set of questions for a given passage (i.e. the questions on the right were not for the passage on the left but for a completely different, inaccessible passage). LSAC is known as a very good test-making company because they don't screw up very much, but everybody screws up sometimes.

So is it true? Heck if I know. But those of you who are saying that it's impossible, well, I don't think it's impossible.


The point isn't that LSAC usually does not screw up. It's that there's no reason to believe the situation is hopeless because there's some sort of underlying motive to denying this student a score. As I and others have said, this person simply has to demand to see the answer sheet or the statement he's supposed to send. It's possible that they don't have the answer sheet, but not likely. And if you believe, as I do, that LSAC wants this person to see the score, you can imagine that they will cooperate with him and try to figure this out.

There's always an off chance that something very unusual happened, but I don't see why LSAC wouldn't do what it can to figure everything out.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:39 pm 

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jayzon wrote:
b.j. wrote:
It's a professional organization that deals with some powerful institutions. It's also, from what I can tell, just as technologically advanced as, oh, every other organization on the planet.


Not even close to true. I teach at a college with very little money, on a reservation with very little money. Today, my students took a multiple choice quiz, and received their scores within seconds of completion.

LSAC administers a multiple choice test using ScanTron, and takes weeks to accomplish what a powerful computer could do in a matter of hours, if not minutes...if not seconds.


The actual scanning of the answer sheets probably doesn't take that long. It's the other bullshit that takes up most of the time, I imagine. Whether all of it is necessary in order to ensure fair testing conditions is really worth it is another question, but it doesn't mean LSAC is technologically weak.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:41 pm 

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Ahhh FML.

The weeks-long delay between the test and score release is not due to a technological inability to scan bubble sheets. You have to consider that it takes 3 days to deliver all the score sheets back, 1 day to scan them and process their database, and 3 weeks to sit back and bask in schadenfreude as our anxiety peaks. :evil:

Or to check up on things and what not, riiight. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:31 am 

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My guess: Person freaked out over test, got drunk to forget it, faxed form while drunk, forgot it all.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:49 am 

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b.j. wrote:
TheLuckyOne wrote:
b.j. wrote:

As I said, this person simply has to demand to see the answer sheet or the form he was supposed to send in.

So again, I call bullshit.


LSAC can pretty easy get away with this as well (if they really wanted to avoid some sort of scandal and it was already too late to recover the score)... bubble in two ovals into his/her scantron and have a proof. Oh well, bad situation :?


But again, why would they want to do this? You are assuming there's some sort of plot against this person. Why would there be?


What makes you think we assume there was a motive behind it? Just a silly mistake that LSAC would not want to acknowledge, or it would be too late to reinstate the score or something and they would realize that they are busted because who knows what the paarnoid poor exhausted law-school-student-to-be might do, you know.

No conspiracy, just a mistake that might result in conspiracy to save one's own ass.


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 Post subject: Re: FML. Not my life, real or fake?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:59 am 

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Now I'm going to have nightmares of my score being "accidentally" canceled, along with the already recurring ones of lsat scores ranging in the 120~140s....


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