That is my recommendation. It's exactly what I did myself. I'm friends with a lot of FT students, but I can honestly say that people are really cool in both programs. The feel is a little bit different, because there are more commuting students in PT, but I was really, really shocked by how young people are. If the median age is over 25, I would be pretty shocked. Most of these kids seem to be 1-3 years out of UG, as I am. There are special events for PT students, often featuring free pizza, and there are law review spots reserved for the people who won't be switching over to day. A lot of people do switch over, though. It's really, really common, and easy to do. Even people with FT jobs often end up quitting when they realize how much work is involved. Also, I would estimate that no more than 50% of PT students hold 9-5 day jobs. As the year goes on, more and more people quit their jobs to focus on studying.
I love the PT program, because I'm a night person anyway. I basically study all night, then sleep til noon on days when I don't have my internship or student meetings. It's really flexible, and I'm very happy to be an evening student. If it didn't require an extra year of cost of living expenses, I don't know that I would switch.
So you roughly take 3/4 of the classes as a FT I'm guessing?
Are PTers always evening classes only, or do they eventually take some classes with FT (or would that never work because of jobs?) It seems like if you were a PT that had a flexible job schedule, they'd let you sit in on a day class no? Is an evening class generally 6-8 and then another one from 830 to 10, or is it usually one class per day?
So as a PTer than, are you mostly close with PTs only, or are there a lot of Fordham events for everyone?
I'm not sure if this question was asked, but I'm seeing a lot of t-14 big law panic, especially with Cornell and OCIs. It seems that if t-14s are being hit hard, then Fordham might as well, but Fordham does an excellent job of placing their kids into great careers, so I was wondering if you have heard any whispers from 3Ls or others as to what the job situation is like for Fordham specifically? Hopefully the economy picks up in 3 years and the whole point is moot.
FT kids take three substantive classes each semester, plus legal writing and legal research. We take two substantive classes each semester, plus legal writing and legal research. It's still a good amount of work, and I am personally in awe of those of my classmates who manage to do all this in addition to 40 hours of work a week.
We only have one substantive class a night, then legal research (on Monday nights, after Contracts) and legal writing (Thursday nights, after Crim Law.) The latest we are ever in class is 9:40 pm, so there is plenty of time to read after class.
Because of my club memberships (and also due to my activity on TLS), I know a number of FT kids. It might be harder for those working full time during the day to meet FT students, though. People tend to be closest to those in their own section, especially in legal writing, where there are fewer than 20 students per class. Rather than competition, I feel a strong sense of attachment to my classmates. Their success is my success, and this makes the concept of a curve difficult for me personally, because I see firsthand how hard everyone works, and I want to see my friends succeed.
After 1L year, evening students are allowed to take day classes, and vice versa, even if the evening students elect to retain their part time status. I plan to switch over, but continue my practice of taking mostly evening classes. This is what I did in undergrad, and the schedule worked out perfectly for me.
As for OCI, we don't have official numbers, but as you can well imagine, hiring is down everywhere, and Fordham is not immune. I only know a handful of current 3Ls (My LRW TA has a biglaw offer. He is on Law Review, but I don't know his exact GPA). It appears that top students still got offers, but those around median did not get biglaw this year. I don't know where the cutoff was, so I'm waiting for the NLJ's official report, which is compiled by an outside source, and is presumed to be accurate. My hope is that things will be better for our class and the next. If we return to 2005 hiring levels, around 1/3 of the class will place into biglaw, and another 5% or so will go for clerkships (our classmates heavily select for private practice, which I find interesting. I hope to see more Fordham kids go into public interest.)
To superflush: It isn't a huge problem that 2L and 3L PT students are allowed to take day classes on occasion, because most of the people who stay PT actually do have full time jobs. Thus, fewer of them elect to take day classes, and it appears that there is enough space for those that do. For the most part, everyone who is not working (except for a friend of mine who is concurrently a fashion design student at Parsons!) switches over.