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 Post subject: Re: Hofstra median salary $160k -- Summons Rayiner
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:44 pm 

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 Post subject: Re: Hofstra median salary $160k -- Summons Rayiner
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:09 pm 

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What we should do on TLS is work out a "real employment stats" project. Simply assume that all unreported salaries are in their small firm rate and show that the career prospects are really crappy.


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 Post subject: Re: Hofstra median salary $160k -- Summons Rayiner
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:14 pm 

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Kohinoor wrote:
XxSpyKEx wrote:
I wonder if someone complained about this to the ABA Hofstra would get threatened to have their ABA accreditation yanked. This has to be some of the best number fudging I've seen anywhere.

The problem is that it's not number fudging. They clearly state what they're doing but people read it and see what they want to see.


Someone who understands stats would be able to make a great article titled, somewhere along the lines of "How Hofstra Lies with Statistics", based on the classic article about how perfectly true stats can be used to mislead people. This sort of practice is completely unethical; while there are grounds to defend it along the lines of rigid formalism, I don't think that reflects the value of average people.


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 Post subject: Re: Hofstra median salary $160k -- Summons Rayiner
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:25 pm 

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Space_Cowboy wrote:
atlantalaw wrote:
not just TTT's do this. aba really should set some firm standards. employment data for such a large investment should not be confusing/hypertechnical with the language.


Fuck the ABA. Just make a school's Federal Graduate PLUS loan eligibility dependent on the school reporting salary outcomes for 90+% of its graduates. If school can't demonstrate a return on investment for their "product," no federal loans for people who want buy said product.


This.


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 Post subject: Re: Hofstra median salary $160k -- Summons Rayiner
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:26 pm 

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Snooker wrote:
What we should do on TLS is work out a "real employment stats" project. Simply assume that all unreported salaries are in their small firm rate and show that the career prospects are really crappy.


The problem is that most of these places don't even give you enough information to figure out what the real employment stats are (even assuming that all unreported salaries are in their small firm rate would be an overstatement). They just give you enough where the typical prospective student believes he is making a good investment. I mean how many people would actually attend a school like hofstra for $50K /year (or whatever it costs) if they mentioned that the 27% "business" is the part of the class that couldn't even find legal jobs and are working in retail, mopping floors at a porn preview joint, etc (which is what "business" actually means)? I think the profession would be a better one in general if the ABA unaccredited 100-150 law schools, and then there would probably still be a sufficient supply of lawyers. I guess the question would just be which ones to unaccredit then out of the 200 -- it surely wouldn't be based on USnews since it doesn't account for regional differences at all (e.g. some states only have tier 3 or lower schools, and then there is NY with schools like Hofstra that make tier 2 somehow).


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