Hello folks,

Been reading a lot on here, and elsewhere, and I cannot get it straight.

Question: Is EVERY single class I took at the local community college going to count towards my LSDAS GPA or is it just the 60 units that were required for transferring to the University? In theory: one could take guitar playing, toe-tapping and golf swing classes, that have NO transferability, and would those grades be included by the LSDAS?

Also: I read that the law schools get your LSDAS GPA, and your graduating GPA. Which is the GPA that is published on this site for the acceptance stats?

I have a 3.95 at my graduating university, including my required transferred units (4.0 transfer)....but--> a 3.84 if I calculate the nonsense/non transferred classes from the community college.

I read conflicting info on the actual grades included for transferring issues. Some even say you get NO consideration of that transfer GPA, only the upper division taken at the university (that is by the law school itself, above and beyond the LSDAS GPA)

Good grief.... anybody have an experience with this?

Thanks!

ALL grades prior to getting your undergrad degree count. ALL of them, even if you retake a class the original is counted.


*Some have said that certain schools will forgive grades and make it so they were never taken or something. I have no experience with that and don't know if it is true."

Where did you read any of that? Every college level class you took (even if you were still in HS) before finishing UG counts.

Well, that seems to be the consensus (every single grade counts)... but I do read otherwise too. It seems odd that non-transferable, personal-enrichment classes would be considered. My community college offers classes on the most absurd nonsense for fun, and now I see that those could be devastating to an academically oriented person. That seems wrong. O well.

***If we want to send an addendum to explain a bad grade, who do we send that to? The LSDAS? or each law school we apply to?***

ALSO: How long does it take to get your LSDAS GPA after you submit the transcripts? I would really like to get this resolved... can I send them in just for "fun" to see what I am?

Well, here are two confusing bits of info: (I did say I have been reading elsewhere too)

1. http://www.ehow.com/how_4823316_calcula ... s.html..... on here #6 says the grade will count if it counts towards your UNDERGRAD DEGREE.... (non transferred class DO NOT.) So that makes me think the non-sense classes do not count.

2. http://www.prelaw.uconn.edu/documents/W ... meline.pdf
Here, at bottom of page one, it indicates "While the LSAC will calculate a GPA based on all your undergraduate grades, most law schools will not consider your junior college or community college grades when reviewing your file."

So, what is the consensus on the GPA that a law school considers? Clearly, there are options.

What is the GPA that is published on this site for the rankings? The LSDAS? or the GPA that UCONN refers to in their website (link #2 above)...

Thanks, this site is great. I do appreciate the advice.

So, if I'm not mistaken, you are saying it is the LSDAS? And it includes everything?








haha. Just kidding.

Breathe deeply..

I like to keep asking until I wear'm down and get the answer I wanted..

Thanks...

Wait: I have to ask...

I cannot find anyone on here who is concerned with NON-Transferable community college courses. Everyone is clear on the issues of classes, and re-takes, and high-school college level classwork... (they ALL count)

But what about NON-transferable classes. That is the actual issue. The large majority of classes offered at community colleges are NON-transferable to a university. Are we sure that those fluff-classes would count?

That defies common sense. They are not classes towards a degree in any capacity. Some are pre-requisits for the actual needed class that does transfer.... and some are pure applesauce.

Those count?

Sorry..

Now see... thank you! That is my question! It is about NON-Transferable classes that DO NOT count towards a degree....!

How can we (or at least I) find this out?

Holy shit. Bro, just call LSAC.

Nice! I am sensing a shift in the momentum here...

I need someone who has done this to comment on how they went about it. Somehow I have to let the LSDAS know that a few of my classes from Community College were not transferable and had nothing to do with my degree. Do we send letters of explanation to LSDAS too?

Oh, I can call LSAC for this? Good grief. OK, I will do that! HA!

Sorry.

Yes, please just call them.

But those classes are going to count.

I'll take that [unenforceable] bet.

Wrong, so wrong. I have credits that don't count towards anything.... "Marriage in the family class" my wife thought I should take in community college....

Guess what: it counts towards my LSDAS GPA.

And to OP never believe a pre law group at a school like the one linked. Pre-law groups are pretty bad, they usually don't even stress the importance of the LSAT.

+1

When LSAC says they only care about "Classes that count toward your degree" what they mean is any class, transferred for credit or not, from any college, taken before the first degree is earned.

I called them asking about my 10 year old college classes that I took in high school and did not transfer when I began college 'for real'. They still counted. (Much to my detriment).

That said:

Taking silly classes at a community college should be fine, provided the OP did well in them. If not, then the OP is in the same f-ed up boat I am >.>

I got a D in a community college class that didn't count toward my B.A. or any other degree, and it wasn't transferred anywhere - my degree-granting institution isn't even aware of it as far as I know. (It was basically a vocational class that was required for a job). But I still had to send the transcript to LSAC and as much as I would like it to NOT count in my LSDAS GPA, it's most definitely there, pulling down my GPA.

So, I think to answer the question - those classes WILL count. However, if you find out that by calling LSAC you can get them to take them off... Let me know!!

And I will also take that $5 (unenforceable) bet. Best case scenario - I have to pay someone $5 bucks, but my GPA improves significantly. Worst case - I win $5, but still have the same GPA...

Dammit, don't post wrong information.

All college classes count toward the LSDAS GPA as long as it was taken before the first bachelor's degree. This includes:

- Classes that don't count toward your 4-year degree
- Classes that didn't transfer
- Classes you took during high school
- Classes from study abroad
- Classes that you took twice (both grades count)

OP, you can call LSAC and verify all of this, but I guarantee you that they're going to laugh in your face if you try to send them a letter whining about classes that don't count toward your degree. You have a 3.84.

/thread

This thread is full of dumb, with the exception of this post.

How is anything I posted dumb or in any way inaccurate? In fact, my first post answered the question 100% then someone came out and said something inaccurate.

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What is inaccurate I said so I know for future reference?

(Except it should have been marriage and the family not marriage in the family...)

I'm not seeing anything inaccurate about anything you posted (or my post, either, for that matter)...

if this is irrelevant, kick me...but:

my LSDAS GPA isn't making sense.

at my college i have a 3.87

i submitted the community college transcript as well, where i took some college level classes during high school and made all As (96% and up). for some reason, when i submitted the cc transcript, my LSDAS GPA went DOWN to a 3.7something.

this doesn't make sense because those As should have been 4.0s and therefore brought it up...right?

thoughts? thanks

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any help would be awesome...

First of all, you really don't need to bump after only nine minutes. As to your actual problem, were there any classes you did poorly in and retook? Any - grades (A-, B-, etc) that your school didn't necessarily calculate as such for its GPA? Look at your Academic Report: are all the grades there and accurate?