Ah, the ad hominem attacks. When you have nothing substantive to say, those usually come out. Like I said, it's fine, I'm really not bitter you guys got where you are through a URM boost. I just am not willing to condemn someone else who is white for doing it too, that's all.

Ah, the ad hominem attacks. When you have nothing substantive to say, those usually come out. Like I said, it's fine, I'm really not bitter you guys got where you are through a URM boost. I just am not willing to condemn someone else who is white for doing it too, that's all.

What you said:



What I read:

Quite alright, the URM boost should cover you on that lack of reading comp.

this thread is so lame. A never ending argument between an asshole and an idiot...fun.

this thread is so lame. A never ending argument between an asshole and an idiot...fun.

Yeah Waker, quit being an asshole.

You know. I feel sick about this too.

But the sad part is that many people may fake their race, and the probability that they will be caught are close to zero. You just have to live along with it. That's all you can do.

Ann Ivey says that there are no reprcussions for people who strech the truth of their ethnicity (1/8? or 1/9?). Also, apparently from what I'm learning, the bar is probably not going to reject you: I forgot reading the statistics but if they reject you they call you for an interview and less than .001% actually get rejected.

It's an ethical fail. But the stats point the other way. Unless your obviously talk about it like a couple of posters on TLS.

I hate this soo much. It makes me sick to my stomach. I don't understand why anyone can't be honest.

I did not. Had I, I would have easily been attending a T-14.

You know. I feel sick about this too.

But the sad part is that many people may fake their race, and the probability that they will be caught are close to zero. You just have to live along with it. That's all you can do.

Ann Ivey says that there are no reprcussions for people who strech the truth of their ethnicity (1/8? or 1/9?). Also, apparently from what I'm learning, the bar is probably not going to reject you: I forgot reading the statistics but if they reject you they call you for an interview and less than .001% actually get rejected.

It's an ethical fail. But the stats point the other way. Unless your obviously talk about it like a couple of posters on TLS.

I hate this soo much. It makes me sick to my stomach. I don't understand why anyone can't be honest.

You aren't attending a T-14 because you're dumb enough to compare white people lying about their race to get a URM boost to Rosa Parks and the civil rights movement, not because you're being racially discriminated against for being white.

Your argument is flawed. That analogy aside, had I submitted an application with my current stats and the URM box checked, I would almost surely have been attending a T-14. To deny this is absurd.

Your argument is flawed. That analogy aside, had I submitted an application with my current stats and the URM box checked, I would almost surely have been attending a T-14. To deny this is absurd.

it depends what you consider faking...do you mean someone who is 100% caucasian claiming to be latino? Thats probably not a good idea....but now the apps and LSAC say check any and all that apply...so for example, if you 95% white and 5% native american...you can check both boxes and still be answering the question honestly.

Ah, only now did I see George Bush. A man who, unlike Barack Obama, got into the Ivy league without a URM / AA boost.

I will keep this short and to the point. OK here it goes. I have an acquaintance who is a white Caucasian U.S. citizen. He is married to a Mexican native/citizen. He speaks fluent Spanish and is a Supreme Court certified interpreter. He currently lives with his wife in Mexico. He is considering changing his name in court to include his American last name as well as his wife's hyphenated Mexican dual last names.

Here is my reasoning...

1. He can change his last name(s) to those of his Mexican wife's and apply to many different law schools, WHILE ELECTING TO OMIT the actual race/ethnicity question box answer.

2. He can legally state that Spanish is the primary language spoken in his home because it is.

3. He can legally state that he currently lives in or have lived in Mexico.

4. He can state that his profession is Spanish-English Interpreter.

5. In his personal statement, He can legally talk about his family's Mexican heritage, without clarifying it is in fact his WIFE'S and CHILDREN'S heritage only (they are his FAMILY after all).

This seems like the perfect situation for a white applicant to ride the affirmative action wave without having to lie or even mislead on the application. What does everyone think?

GPA is 2.0 and LSAT score is 156

This is not a hypothetical situation. This is real and the guy is graduating college (online state college degree) in December.

He is obviously NOT concerned with top tier law schools. LSDAS GPA will be under a 2.0. Schools he is most interested in applying to are Cal Western, Whittier, Thomas Jefferson, Boyd UNLV Las Vegas, etc. Mostly just west coast schools. Thanks

I will keep this short and to the point. OK here it goes. I have an acquaintance who is a white Caucasian U.S. citizen. He is married to a Mexican native/citizen. He speaks fluent Spanish and is a Supreme Court certified interpreter. He currently lives with his wife in Mexico. He is considering changing his name in court to include his American last name as well as his wife's hyphenated Mexican dual last names.

Here is my reasoning...

1. He can change his last name(s) to those of his Mexican wife's and apply to many different law schools, WHILE ELECTING TO OMIT the actual race/ethnicity question box answer.

2. He can legally state that Spanish is the primary language spoken in his home because it is.

3. He can legally state that he currently lives in or have lived in Mexico.

4. He can state that his profession is Spanish-English Interpreter.

5. In his personal statement, He can legally talk about his family's Mexican heritage, without clarifying it is in fact his WIFE'S and CHILDREN'S heritage only (they are his FAMILY after all).

This seems like the perfect situation for a white applicant to ride the affirmative action wave without having to lie or even mislead on the application. What does everyone think?

GPA is 2.0 and LSAT score is 156

This is not a hypothetical situation. This is real and the guy is graduating college (online state college degree) in December.

He is obviously NOT concerned with top tier law schools. LSDAS GPA will be under a 2.0. Schools he is most interested in applying to are Cal Western, Whittier, Thomas Jefferson, Boyd UNLV Las Vegas, etc. Mostly just west coast schools. Thanks

How deceptive. My worry wouldn't be about getting caught but rather about how to live with/respect myself...