i sat in on civil procedure and criminal law. met a nice student who let me look at her reading and notes and reassured me not to be scared off by civil procedure.....

I live just south of Albuquerque in El Paso, TX, but I have family that lives up there. We have great weather too-January has been in the 70s, except for today, which was a little cold and rainy. Anyways, I hope your trip had a positive impact on the Admissions Committee's decision. In my opinion making a trip all the way out there signifies how enthusiastic and motivated you are about attending the Law School so hopefully they saw that too. Was it as cold up there as everybody says? I am sure that I am going to freeze in Ithaca; I get cold when it's 65 degrees here!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!

cornell has already accepted a 151 this cycle, so you may get in

I'm sure there are. Many people would consider you to be an applicant worth admitting based on your 150/3.XX GPA, life experience, and demonstrated goodness.

However, to get into a top school like Cornell, you need numbers, period. (OR, you need a "racial advantage" -- sorry, but that's what it is.)

I can guarantee you, there will NEVER, EVER be a white man (or woman) who gets into Cornell with a 150. It just won't happen excepting cases of Nobel Prize winners (who would likely pull a 170 anyhow!) or a famous writer (like the Prozac Nation lady with a 160+) . (If someone finds a case of a white guy with not incredible experience getting in, it's either BS or a massive exception. However you'll find a few 150 LSAT black/latino men and women who scrape in.)

So, regardless of the details of their early decision program, the only reason you have a single prayer of getting into Cornell is because of your "race". (Of course, your other attributes will make a difference, HOWEVER, as mallard pointed out, URM status [particularly black or latino status] is a necessary [but not sufficient] condition for acceptance with a 150 LSAT.)

If you don't want it to be the only reason you get into Cornell, cease checking boxes on applications of all kinds that indicate you are a minority.

Such boxes are used for one thing and one thing only: racism -- the making of decisions based on race. Being perfectly honest, however, if I was you, I'd still use my race to my advantage, sad as it is to have to be truly honest with oneself about what is happening. (I.e. for you to be admitted, someone else is rejected. Someone else was rejected for being white, just as in other situations in life a latina woman may be rejected for being latina. It's the flip side of your acceptance. It's racism.)

That said, good luck to you, it sounds like you're worthy of admission based on what I consider to be better measures (e.g. community service, etc.) Consider taking the LSAT again if you don't get into a good law school. Waiting one year may be less than ideal, but going to Cornell one year later beats going to a much poorer school right now. I'm sure you're capable of getting at least another 5 points, so consider a class. With a 160 you could get into even better schools, check out law school numbers and look for the URMs.

Good luck, and definitely do all the follow-up activities you mentioned.

Edit: nvm

this topic seems unreal

Not true... White legacies would get in with a 150... Trust me on that... If you're a Kennedy, Bush, Biden, Clinton, Rockerfeller, Vanderbilt, Carnegie, Morgan, Roosevelt and the list goes on... You would get in... Without a doubt... Quit the bitching... For the couple of URMs that get in with a lower score... I bet there are twice as many white legacies getting in...

[If you're curious... No, I am not a URM.]

I beg to differ. Bush was rejected frum UT law school, granted he may not have scored 150+. And couple of URMs, what are you smoking? Looks like most decently ranked schools have 20% or higher URM, many of whom are probably below the median LSAT.

where do you see that stat?

minority =/= URM ; a significant portion (likely most) of their minority enrollment numbers are actually Asians

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=51444

quit your bitchin, white boy

lsac.org, it gives fairly accurate break down of race. Harvard has 30% minority. 1/3 of those are asian, the rest are URM and we are right back at around 20%. Quit bitchin, bitch.

I am not arguing against AA, just that it more prevalent than 150 lsat legacy admissions.

ahh...ok. so harvard, the one with the most URMs (in absolute terms and also as a percentage) barely hit 20%. your argument was that most elite schools had at least 20%. i'm not really trying to pick anything with you, but it's sometimes aggravating to see people perpetuate this notion that URMs are taking huge numbers of slots away from non-URMs, when there really aren't that many.

ps: i'm not an urm, despite my avatar

I get what your saying, and I do not believe anyone is taking slots away from anyone. The slots belong to the law schools, not me, and they can give them to whoever they want to. However I will do my best to earn a slot somewhere.

I said decent ranked, not elite. I have honestly never looked at stats for a majority of the T14, as that is not where I will end up. I choose Harvard out of the blue, before tonight I have never looked at their stats for anything. I was referring to T1/T2 schools, where I have researched.

weird there were so many responses to this...no decision from Cornell yet but I am preparing and taking the LSAT again in June in case I am waitlisted. at this point. i'd prefer an up or down but i'll know all that in a few weeks...

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Thanks, that's nice of you. I'm waiting patiently, and thinking of writing another email or letter just restating my interest but I don't have much more to add to my file since I am now out of school and just working......

I'd like to know how this situation turned out? Did Lisa get into Cornell Law?

Look in her post history. Doesn't look like it.

No need to respond to this, Mallard, as I realize you posted this months ago. But since the thread was bumped, I thought I'd clarify that Cornell probably isn't really in "dire need of minorities." To the contrary, it's the most diverse of the T-14 (31% minority status).

Just for anyone who might be interested....i retook the lsat, got a 10+ point bump, and am reapplying.....this addendum is going to awkward