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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:31 am 

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4 bedroom 3 bathroom house in Chula Vista California (South San Diego County) for 450K. This area known as Eastlake is actually pretty new and a very tranquil place to live.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/reb/1499842038.html


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:31 am 

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The Brainalist wrote:
jmaan wrote:
I've lived in CA my whole life and its not that expensive to live in a safe area...there are many places in the bay area that are decent and not super expensive...i cant speak for so cal though


Anywhere that isn't East Bay? I think 1 mil stands for peninsula and the north side of the golden gate within reason. Otherwise, you are looking at San Jose (which I actually like) or pleasanton/livermore, which don't do much for me, and don't have good enough access to public transportation. Maybe Albany or Emeryville? But those are probably at least 7-800k for a three bedroom.


This is accurate. I wouldn't live in Albany/Emeryville/anywhere on the East Bay if you paid me, which probably explains why they are slightly cheaper than the rest of the Bay. The only exception is the Oakland Hills, but the average house costs over 1 million. My friend moved up there recently and the houses in his neighborhood cost 1 to 3 million. As for the city, my cousin lives in San Francisco and recently bought a 2 bedroom apartment, not house, for 1 million dollars.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:44 am 

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rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
4 bedroom 3 bathroom house in Chula Vista California (South San Diego County) for 450K. This area known as Eastlake is actually pretty new and a very tranquil place to live.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/reb/1499842038.html


Wow. Someone talking up Eastlake. Just goes to show you, if you live long enough......


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:18 am 

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rondemarino wrote:
rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
4 bedroom 3 bathroom house in Chula Vista California (South San Diego County) for 450K. This area known as Eastlake is actually pretty new and a very tranquil place to live.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/reb/1499842038.html


Wow. Someone talking up Eastlake. Just goes to show you, if you live long enough......


I'm curious, what's so bad about it?


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:19 am 

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rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
rondemarino wrote:
rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
4 bedroom 3 bathroom house in Chula Vista California (South San Diego County) for 450K. This area known as Eastlake is actually pretty new and a very tranquil place to live.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/reb/1499842038.html


Wow. Someone talking up Eastlake. Just goes to show you, if you live long enough......


I'm curious, what's so bad about it?



It's not by the beach. You might as well live in Temecula.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:21 am 

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Whats an URM? wrote:
rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
rondemarino wrote:
rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
4 bedroom 3 bathroom house in Chula Vista California (South San Diego County) for 450K. This area known as Eastlake is actually pretty new and a very tranquil place to live.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/reb/1499842038.html


Wow. Someone talking up Eastlake. Just goes to show you, if you live long enough......


I'm curious, what's so bad about it?



It's not by the beach. You might as well live in Temecula.


You are not from SD are huh?
Eastlake is at most 20 mins. from either I.B. or Coronado.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:27 am 

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rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
You are not from SD are huh?
Eastlake is at most 20 mins. from either I.B. or Coronado.


Apparently, neither are you. Eastlake and beach don't go in the same sentence.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:33 am 

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rondemarino wrote:
rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
You are not from SD are huh?
Eastlake is at most 20 mins. from either I.B. or Coronado.


Apparently, neither are you. Eastlake and beach don't go in the same sentence.



Take a look at this buddy:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___US356&hs=73t&q=1415+Orange+Avenue,+Coronado&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=1415+Orange+Ave,+Coronado,+CA+92118&gl=us&daddr=1415%20Orange%20Ave,%20Coronado,%20CA%2092118&ei=LvIdS8m8C4vssgOboo2FCg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=directions-to&resnum=1&ved=0CAoQwwUwAA

According to google maps it would take you 32 mins. to get to Hotel Del Coronado from that house, I'm pretty sure you could make it in 25.
Or is that still too far for you?


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:34 am 

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Quote:
You are not from SD are you?
Eastlake is at most 20 mins. from either I.B. or Coronado.



Haha, actually I went to school in San Diego. If you want to live in San Diego at an affordable price check out Oceanside and Escondido (or is it Encinitas?) first, then start moving East and South. Beaches south of La Jolla are either too expensive or packed by college kids. Either way, try to live by the beach! There's nothing in the world like waking up on a Saturday morning and driving five minutes to San Diego beaches.

By the way, I thought we were talking about Chula Vista, which is like 10 minutes north of the border and at least 20 minutes from the beaches if there's no traffic on the 805. Oh, and Coronado is awesome, but Imperial sucks. However, Coronado is on an island and heavily trafficked by tourists, making getting on and off the island a real pain sometimes. The best beaches are farther up North, like Mission and Encinitas.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:36 am 

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Whats an URM? wrote:
Quote:
You are not from SD are you?
Eastlake is at most 20 mins. from either I.B. or Coronado.



Haha, actually I went to school in San Diego. If you want to live in San Diego at an affordable price check out Oceanside and Escondido (or is it Encinitas?) first, then start moving East and South. Beaches south of La Jolla are either too expensive or packed by college kids. Either way, try to live by the beach! There's nothing in the world like waking up on a Saturday morning and driving five minutes to San Diego beaches.

By the way, I thought we were talking about Chula Vista, which is like 10 minutes north of the border and at least 20 minutes from the beaches if there's no traffic on the 805. Oh, and Coronado is awesome, but Imperial sucks. However, Coronado is on an island and heavily trafficked by tourists, making getting on and off the island a real pain sometimes. The best beaches are farther up North, like Mission and Encinitas.


I wouldn't live in Oceanside even if I got paid, I'm actually pretty happy where I live. Chula Vista IS right next to the ocean, you would just have to take the 5 towards I.B. to get to the nearest beach, that is around a 10 min. drive.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:40 am 

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Anyway, what people here were arguing is that it would be impossible to pay for a 3 bedroom home for less than $800,000 for a house in a safe area in SoCal. If you're from SoCal you would know that there are plenty of areas where property is not that expensive and I just wanted to provide an example.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:44 am 

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rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
Anyway, what people here were arguing is that it would be impossible to pay for a 3 bedroom home for less than $800,000 for a house in a safe area in SoCal. If you're from SoCal you would know that there are plenty of areas where property is not that expensive and I just wanted to provide an example.



There's not an unsafe place in San Diego. Maybe El Cajon, but that's seriously it. And yes, plenty of homes for less than that all over the place.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:46 am 

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Whats an URM? wrote:
rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
Anyway, what people here were arguing is that it would be impossible to pay for a 3 bedroom home for less than $800,000 for a house in a safe area in SoCal. If you're from SoCal you would know that there are plenty of areas where property is not that expensive and I just wanted to provide an example.



There's not an unsafe place in San Diego. Maybe El Cajon, but that's seriously it. And yes, plenty of homes for less than that all over the place.


Well, National City and Barrio Logan are also kinda bad, but I guess when you compare them with cities like L.A. that have a really bad crime problem these areas are a walk in the park.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:51 am 

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rondemarino wrote:
rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
You are not from SD are huh?
Eastlake is at most 20 mins. from either I.B. or Coronado.


Apparently, neither are you. Eastlake and beach don't go in the same sentence.


By the way, you never answered my question.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:34 am 
Princess of Berkeley

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Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few people on the planet that never wants a "house," and for sure never wants to live in the suburbs. I never lived in a house even as a kid (until 6 months ago here in Berkeley) and am longing for a nice apartment in the city in which I work. Sigh.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:39 am 

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amyLAchemist wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few people on the planet that never wants a "house," and for sure never wants to live in the suburbs. I never lived in a house even as a kid (until 6 months ago here in Berkeley) and am longing for a nice apartment in the city in which I work. Sigh.


+1


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:41 am 

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amyLAchemist wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few people on the planet that never wants a "house," and for sure never wants to live in the suburbs. I never lived in a house even as a kid (until 6 months ago here in Berkeley) and am longing for a nice apartment in the city in which I work. Sigh.


Or maybe just try living in a house outside of the East Bay? The Bay isn't as bad as you think once you get out of the East Bay.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:42 am 
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irishman86 wrote:
amyLAchemist wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few people on the planet that never wants a "house," and for sure never wants to live in the suburbs. I never lived in a house even as a kid (until 6 months ago here in Berkeley) and am longing for a nice apartment in the city in which I work. Sigh.


Or maybe just try living in a house outside of the East Bay? The Bay isn't as bad as you think once you get out of the East Bay.


Yeah, I would be willing to give SF a shot. But it is still cold. I really don't think I could deal with living in in San Jose/Menlo Park/Palo Alto, even though there could be good employment opportunities for me there.

I was basing my pointless rant on the abnormal feelings I have when I enter a subdivision, even very nice ones. I just want out. lol


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:46 am 

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amyLAchemist wrote:
irishman86 wrote:
amyLAchemist wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few people on the planet that never wants a "house," and for sure never wants to live in the suburbs. I never lived in a house even as a kid (until 6 months ago here in Berkeley) and am longing for a nice apartment in the city in which I work. Sigh.


Or maybe just try living in a house outside of the East Bay? The Bay isn't as bad as you think once you get out of the East Bay.


Yeah, I would be willing to give SF a shot. But it is still cold. I really don't think I could deal with living in in San Jose/Menlo Park/Palo Alto, even though there could be good employment opportunities for me there.

I was basing my pointless rant on the abnormal feelings I have when I enter a subdivision, even very nice ones. I just want out. lol


At least your house has heat and hot water right now :(.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:49 am 
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worldtraveler wrote:
amyLAchemist wrote:
irishman86 wrote:
amyLAchemist wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few people on the planet that never wants a "house," and for sure never wants to live in the suburbs. I never lived in a house even as a kid (until 6 months ago here in Berkeley) and am longing for a nice apartment in the city in which I work. Sigh.


Or maybe just try living in a house outside of the East Bay? The Bay isn't as bad as you think once you get out of the East Bay.


Yeah, I would be willing to give SF a shot. But it is still cold. I really don't think I could deal with living in in San Jose/Menlo Park/Palo Alto, even though there could be good employment opportunities for me there.

I was basing my pointless rant on the abnormal feelings I have when I enter a subdivision, even very nice ones. I just want out. lol


At least your house has heat and hot water right now :(.


Oh god. That is terrible. I would literally die. They need to fix that!!

However. it is 70 in here and i am wearing..... 3 pairs of socks, slippers, 2 pairs of pants, long sleeve t-shirt, fleece sweatshirt, hat, robe, blanket across legs. Clearly, I should never move anywhere that is actually cold.....regardless of cost of living. And I am avoiding property..... ;)


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:58 am 

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Whats an URM? wrote:
rGsgbJsl1 wrote:
Anyway, what people here were arguing is that it would be impossible to pay for a 3 bedroom home for less than $800,000 for a house in a safe area in SoCal. If you're from SoCal you would know that there are plenty of areas where property is not that expensive and I just wanted to provide an example.



There's not an unsafe place in San Diego. Maybe El Cajon, but that's seriously it. And yes, plenty of homes for less than that all over the place.


did you just say theres not an unsafe place in san diego?

the same san diego that borders mexico?

dont get me wrong, sd is beautiful and safe, but to say theres not an unsafe place in san diego is retarded.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:00 am 

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amyLAchemist wrote:
irishman86 wrote:
amyLAchemist wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few people on the planet that never wants a "house," and for sure never wants to live in the suburbs. I never lived in a house even as a kid (until 6 months ago here in Berkeley) and am longing for a nice apartment in the city in which I work. Sigh.


Or maybe just try living in a house outside of the East Bay? The Bay isn't as bad as you think once you get out of the East Bay.


Yeah, I would be willing to give SF a shot. But it is still cold. I really don't think I could deal with living in in San Jose/Menlo Park/Palo Alto, even though there could be good employment opportunities for me there.

I was basing my pointless rant on the abnormal feelings I have when I enter a subdivision, even very nice ones. I just want out. lol


im not here to tell you where to live, but i thought palo alto was gorgeous. dont know bout sj/menlo.

id live in PA in a heartbeat (for a good job/family/some compelling reason) and i live on the beach. like ON the beach. its so effin windy right now.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:32 pm 

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irishman86 wrote:
swheat wrote:
The Brainalist wrote:
jmaan wrote:
I've lived in CA my whole life and its not that expensive to live in a safe area...there are many places in the bay area that are decent and not super expensive...i cant speak for so cal though


Anywhere that isn't East Bay? I think 1 mil stands for peninsula and the north side of the golden gate within reason. Otherwise, you are looking at San Jose (which I actually like) or pleasanton/livermore, which don't do much for me, and don't have good enough access to public transportation. Maybe Albany or Emeryville? But those are probably at least 7-800k for a three bedroom.


You are crazy dude. There are all kinds of houses in Redwood City/San Mateo right now for $500-600k. I'm talking 3-4 bedrooms in a nice, safe atmosphere.

You can actually get a nice single family house in Santa Clara right now for under 500k. All of those houses were just under $1m at the peak. Walnut Creek is not that expensive if you will take a 50 year old place in need of work. Dublin/Pleasanton is relatively affordable and very quiet and safe + has BART.

Of course all of this is due to the housing bubble crash. Everybody expects the Bay Area to be one of the fastest housing markets to recover, so I am sure most of us won't have a chance to cash in before prices go berserk again. :cry:


Define "nice" single family house. My parents have a house in Santa Clara in an average-ish neighborhood where the average 2 story house costs 700k-800k ite....with an average sized yard. When you talk about 500k homes it makes me think of the ghetto areas, like Sunnyvale. There are some pretty bad areas in Santa Clara where you can get a place to live, but you will probably have to live in a totally Mexican neighborhood right next to commercial outlays.

As for Dublin/Pleasanton, they are really far away from jobs and in the middle of nowhere. I know someone who bought a house in Pleasanton and has to commute to SJ for work - it takes about 2-3 hours one way because of traffic every morning. Doesn't seem worth it. BART is very inefficient too, considering there are very limited stops and then you have to take the light rail. It probably doubles your commute if you end having to take the BART and light rail versus just driving. BART isn't like a subway, there are very few stops in comparison.


A little off topic maybe, but when did Sunnyvale become a ghetto. I grew up there and it was far from a ghetto when I lived there, I guess I haven't been there in a few years, but I find it hard to believe that it is that bad. There are a few neighborhoods on the north side of town near the dump and industrial areas that aren't great but on balance it is very middle class, pretty similar to Mountain View and Santa Clara. The three bedroom, one story house I grew up in sold for over 1 mil at the peak of the bubble, and it was even on the wrong side of the tracks, not too far on the wrong side though. Anyway, Sunnyvale isn't a ghetto, just had to step in and defend my hometown :)


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:48 pm 
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in other news, there is frost today. i think this is sealing the deal for me to retreat to SoCal after graduation.


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 Post subject: Re: CA and why it's still a good state to be in
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:34 pm 

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amyLAchemist wrote:
in other news, there is frost today. i think this is sealing the deal for me to retreat to SoCal after graduation.


Mt Diablo is covered in snow today...but you see that in SoCal too


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